Dia daoibh!

I rarely request translations because I much prefer to try to figure things out by myself but I'm really struggling with this one. I'm designing a survey task for my 5th class to do around the topic of family, and I've created a checklist containing items such as 'Faigh duine a bhfuil deirfiúr aige/aici'. For one of the items, I want to say 'Find a person / Find somone who is the eldest in their family', but I can't seem to figure it out. Can anyone help?

Míle buíochas!

P.S. If anyone can direct me towards the appropriate grammar point concerning this kind of sentence structure, please do!

A "find someone who..." task should always be revision of previously studied material, and you obviously haven't taught them this yet.

Your goal in that exercise is practicing question and answer formation, based on manipulating the prompts on the page. If the prompt relies on grammar that is not in their inventory, they won't be able to transform your prompt into a yes/no question.

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Well, it does occur as a assessment portion of a lesson at the end of a unit of study in which they have already practised 'Is/Ní mise an duine is sine', 'Is é/í X an duine is sine' and 'An tusa an duine is sine?', etc. So, yes, they should have acquired the necessary practise regarding vocabulary/sentence formation. The 'prompt' in this case, is recognising 'duine is sine', and with their current level of knowledge, I think they should be able to successfully pose and answer the appropriate question.

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Is mise an duine is sine i mo theaghlach/ mhintir

I think it should be:

Is ise/ eisean an duine is sine...

http://nualeargais.ie/gnag/person.htm
http://nualeargais.ie/gnag/kopul5.htm

*clann means 'children', offspring, not family in the English sense.

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Perhaps "Faigh/aimsigh duine atá ina dhuine/duine is sine ina teaghlach/theaghlach"

Redwolf

for superlatives rather "ar an" than "ina":

So, I'd suggest:
Faigh an té atá ar an duine is sine ina theaghlach

Aimsigh an duine is sine ina t(h)eaghlach?

Cé hé an duine is sine ina t(h)eaghlach?

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I can't see why you would use Find-someone-who for assessment -- that's just not what it's for (I'm a TEFL teacher myself). The main target content is generated during the interviewing, but you won't be able to hear everything. The correct answers can typically be arrived at without necessarily engaging much with the targe language at all, and you presumably don't even know what the answers will be. If no-one's the oldest in their family, are the students going to know how to say that?

Also, there's still the "in his/her/your family" distinction to deal with.

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GRMA!

GRMA! I remember discovering that distinction between 'clann' and 'teaghlach' in secondary school. I felt I had been living a lie for so long! :P





Great suggestions. Míle buíochas guys - might go for the 'Aimsigh an duine is sine ina t(h)eaghlach' option for the simplicity, though it's the exactly the meaning I was going for!



It was planned in a small group context, in which I would be able to observe and record the children's responses. I think it can be used effectively as a form of AfL, and have used it successfully in the past. Regardless, you don't know my students, their ability, content of previous lessons, nor my intentions regarding the application of this task, so I don't see why you feel the need to comment on the teaching strategies I'm employing. I came here looking for grammar advice, not teaching advice.