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PostPosted: Mon 04 Nov 2013 2:26 am 
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Hi!
I'm looking for a phrase or name that means someone is intuitive or sensitive about other people and perceptive about their feelings. I've been digging around online and am in over my head! LOL Thanks for any help.
Lori :D


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PostPosted: Mon 04 Nov 2013 3:36 am 
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I'm thinking mothaitheach may mean what you intend here.


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PostPosted: Mon 04 Nov 2013 3:04 pm 
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Thanks so much!


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PostPosted: Mon 04 Nov 2013 3:35 pm 
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loriannmcvay wrote:
Hi!
I'm looking for a phrase or name that means someone is intuitive or sensitive about other people and perceptive about their feelings. I've been digging around online and am in over my head! LOL Thanks for any help.
Lori :D


géarchúiseach meaning astute, keen-witted,shrewd, discerning would get the point across.
I would also include mothaitheach as an additional attributive adjectine as in "fear géarchúiseach mothaitheach ab ea é.
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PostPosted: Wed 06 Nov 2013 1:50 am 
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Fantastic! Thanks so much!


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PostPosted: Wed 06 Nov 2013 2:04 am 
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Séamus wrote:
loriannmcvay wrote:
Hi!
I'm looking for a phrase or name that means someone is intuitive or sensitive about other people and perceptive about their feelings. I've been digging around online and am in over my head! LOL Thanks for any help.
Lori :D


géarchúiseach meaning astute, keen-witted,shrewd, discerning would get the point across.
I would also include mothaitheach as an additional attributive adjectine as in "fear géarchúiseach mothaitheach ab ea é.
Séamus


:good: , nice!

@Lorian, In Irish adjectives with the same meaning or usually paired together for emphasis.

fear...Ab ea é = he was

fear...is ea é = he is

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Nov 2013 2:24 am 
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Sorry - one more quick question. Would the forms change if they're applied to a woman?


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PostPosted: Wed 06 Nov 2013 2:44 am 
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loriannmcvay wrote:
Sorry - one more quick question. Would the forms change if they're applied to a woman?


Yep!

fear géarchúiseach mothaitheach is ea é

fear=man
é=he

Bean ghéarchúiseach mhothaitheach is ea í

bean=woman
í=she

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loriannmcvay wrote:
Sorry - one more quick question. Would the forms change if they're applied to a woman?


Yes. If it is a woman we would say "bean ghéarchúiseach is ea í - she is an astute woman. If it is a man we say "fear géarchúiseach é - he is an astute man.
Notice that the adjective becomes lenited after the feminine noun (bean) and the pronoun becomes "í" instead of ''é"
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PostPosted: Wed 06 Nov 2013 3:23 am 
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Séamus wrote:
loriannmcvay wrote:
Sorry - one more quick question. Would the forms change if they're applied to a woman?


"bean ghéarchúiseach is ea í - she is an astute woman...
Notice that the adjective becomes lenited after the feminine noun (bean) and the pronoun becomes "í" instead of ''é"
Séamus


hmmm...I think we need a bit more debate on that. In Irish, there exists 2 different kinds of adjectives (in the standard at least), not including that aidiacht shealbhach i.e. an aidiacht cháilíochta and some other one that I can't think of. But you do not lenite for one of the aidiachtaí regardless of gender.

so its:

An bhean mhór the big woman

but

Tá an bhean mór The woman is big

but I would say:

Tá an bhean mhór ag triall ar an siopa The large woman is going to the shop

I think it depends on when you use the English is in the translation.

It was natural for me to say: bean géarchúiseach... is ea í

But just because it was natural for me does not make it correct. I would like some more insight into the aidiacht cháilíochta-v-the other type of aidiacht that I can't think of- I'll look into tomorrow, as I have it somewhere, but if anyone wants to jump in with an explanation twould be great? Save me lookin.

Cian

edited to add source:

What do you know, couldn't find it when I searched online with " an difríocht idir an aidiacht cháilíochta agus an aidiacht...", but I managed to get it when I put in Tá an bhean mór.

http://nualeargais.ie/gnag/adjekt4.htm

Cian

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