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 Post subject: Re: Apathy towards Irish
PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr 2012 5:53 pm 
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However correcting people that way doesn't always work, because sometimes when you are correcting them they are already thinking about their next sentence and they don't listen to what you say so they don't remember and they make the mistake again. That's what happens with some of my pupils in Breton evening classes.

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 Post subject: Re: Apathy towards Irish
PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr 2012 6:15 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
However correcting people that way doesn't always work, because sometimes when you are correcting them they are already thinking about their next sentence and they don't listen to what you say so they don't remember and they make the mistake again. That's what happens with some of my pupils in Breton evening classes.


Yes, I can see how it might not work in an instructional setting, where one expects more obvious correction. It’s more of a conversational tool. I imagine it would not work with people who tend to “talk over” other people in conversation, either.

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 Post subject: Re: Apathy towards Irish
PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr 2012 6:20 pm 
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I appreciate you all, and the help you extend to others with their/our Irish is invaluable. I do not know where I would be without the encouragement and direction of many of you here. I now have far more Irish than I ever thought imaginable, and you have each contributed to that. Idir an dá linn beidh mé ag obair! Le meas, Féabar

Ps: Brendan. I did not say that spelling is unimportant to me. I said that it is secondary to my desire to speak the language. I desire to do both well en el largo plazo.


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 Post subject: Re: Apathy towards Irish
PostPosted: Sun 22 Apr 2012 9:44 pm 
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Aislingeach wrote:
Lughaidh wrote:
However correcting people that way doesn't always work, because sometimes when you are correcting them they are already thinking about their next sentence and they don't listen to what you say so they don't remember and they make the mistake again. That's what happens with some of my pupils in Breton evening classes.


Yes, I can see how it might not work in an instructional setting, where one expects more obvious correction. It’s more of a conversational tool. I imagine it would not work with people who tend to “talk over” other people in conversation, either.


I can certainly see Lughaidh's point of view, am thankful and will learn from it. The weekly conversation evening we have is not an official 'class' as such, although as I said all standards of Gaeilge are welcome to sit in. The 'correction' as outlined above is played by ear and works quite well for us. Maybe it is the results of our new IMF government's murderous taxation policies, etc. on people's ability to go out, but we have had a significant falling off in numbers recently - and some of our Wednesday nights are a chat i nGaeilge and a drink with old friends. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Apathy towards Irish
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WOW! I had no idea a couple of you are soon-to-be "ole geezers" "seandoite" like me. Maybe we will end up arguing about all of this in a pensioners' home. Muttering away in Irish and shaking canes at each other. Ní bheadh sé chomh dona. :bolt:


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Féabar wrote:
WOW! I had no idea a couple of you are soon-to-be "ole geezers" "seandoite" like me. Maybe we will end up arguing about all of this in a pensioners' home. Muttering away in Irish and shaking canes at each other. Ní bheadh sé chomh dona. :bolt:

I think the traditional way to grow old in Ireland is a dark corner at the back of the pub (or an old cottage) over a pint (or some poitín) playing a few tunes and talking about the good ol' days (before the X fucked everything up.) Where X is any random item in the universe (from the English to the GFC) and varies over time. :guiness:

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 Post subject: Re: Apathy towards Irish
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Féabar wrote:
WOW! I had no idea a couple of you are soon-to-be "ole geezers" "seandoite" like me. Maybe we will end up arguing about all of this in a pensioners' home. Muttering away in Irish and shaking canes at each other. Ní bheadh sé chomh dona. :bolt:


An t-aon chaoi a bhfaighidh tú ag bagairt bataí agus a mhungailt i nGaeilge mé i gceann de na tithe úd ná mé a chargáil isteach agus téadracha lámh agus cos ar dtús orm... LOL...

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 Post subject: Re: Apathy towards Irish
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I think the traditional way to grow old in Ireland is a dark corner at the back of the pub (or an old cottage) over a pint (or some poitín) playing a few tunes and talking about the good ol' days (before the X fucked everything up.) Where X is any random item in the universe (from the English to the GFC) and varies over time.


X is the Caighdeán Oifigiúil :rofl:

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 Post subject: Re: Apathy towards Irish
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Lughaidh wrote:
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I think the traditional way to grow old in Ireland is a dark corner at the back of the pub (or an old cottage) over a pint (or some poitín) playing a few tunes and talking about the good ol' days (before the X fucked everything up.) Where X is any random item in the universe (from the English to the GFC) and varies over time.

X is the Caighdeán Oifigiúil :rofl:

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Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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