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In English, we might say, 'sit on my lap' to a child. Is 'ucht' the equivalent of 'lap' in Irish or is there a better word?
Is 'Suigh ar m'ucht' correct?

I have just realised that putting the word 'lap' on to a thread here is asking for trouble. How long before we end up talking about a form of dancing! :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Apr 2012 12:14 pm 
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I think Suigh ar m'ucht is "Sit on my breast/chest".

Suigh i m'ucht "Sit on/in my lap"

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Saoirse wrote:
In English, we might say, 'sit on my lap' to a child. Is 'ucht' the equivalent of 'lap' in Irish or is there a better word?
Is 'Suigh ar m'ucht' correct?


The only one I am familiar with would be
Suigh ar mo ghlúin
or Suigh ar mo ghlúine
for the idea of 'Sit on my lap'
so I thought it might be no harm to suggest it also...

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Apr 2012 12:33 pm 
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Braoin wrote:
Saoirse wrote:
In English, we might say, 'sit on my lap' to a child. Is 'ucht' the equivalent of 'lap' in Irish or is there a better word?
Is 'Suigh ar m'ucht' correct?


The only one I am familiar with would be
Suigh ar mo ghlúin
for 'Sit on my lap'
so I thought it might be no harm to suggest it also...


Aha! That's what I was thinking...but I saw you were online and hoped you would comment.


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PostPosted: Sun 08 Apr 2012 12:44 pm 
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Scooby wrote:
Braoin wrote:
Saoirse wrote:
In English, we might say, 'sit on my lap' to a child. Is 'ucht' the equivalent of 'lap' in Irish or is there a better word?
Is 'Suigh ar m'ucht' correct?


The only one I am familiar with would be
Suigh ar mo ghlúin
for 'Sit on my lap'
so I thought it might be no harm to suggest it also...


Aha! That's what I was thinking...but I saw you were online and hoped you would comment.

I had the thought also of suggesting ar mo ghlúin also.

In English, I think sitting a child on one's knee is slightly different from sitting them in your lap. Many other languages would make no distinction between the two.

I can't say whether Irish actually makes this distinction but FGB and De Bhaldraithe have i d'ucht as "in your lap" and ar do ghlúine as on your knee.

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Braoin wrote:
The only one I am familiar with would be
Suigh ar mo ghlúin
or Suigh ar mo ghlúine
for the idea of 'Sit on my lap'
so I thought it might be no harm to suggest it also...


That's what I'd say too.
Although "lapa" is said too, but that is probably Béarlachas.


Breandán wrote:
I think Suigh ar m'ucht is "Sit on my breast/chest".

Suigh i m'ucht "Sit on/in my lap"


Yes.Suigh ar m'ucht is "Sit on my breast/chest".
And if I had a "páiste i m'ucht" I would be holding him to my chest.
But "suigh i m'ucht" is right too for "sitting on lap" as it is in the dictionary but I wouldn't say it myself.

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Braoin wrote:
The only one I am familiar with would be Suigh ar mo ghlúin or Suigh ar mo ghlúine for the idea of 'Sit on my lap' so I thought it might be no harm to suggest it also...

Actually, that is what I say myself, but then I wondered if there was a better / another way to say it. Now, I am wondering if it should be singular or plural? I say 'Suigh ar mo ghlúine'. Is that the best option here?

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When I wanted to post about another meaning of 'ucht', I googled it and this thread was the first hit! Then I realised that I am still not sure about singular or plural for 'suigh ar mo ghlúin/ghlúine' Which is best?

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