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PostPosted: Fri 06 Dec 2019 10:05 pm 
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How would you say THE government of Ireland or England?

My guess is that

"The government of Ireland" == Rialtas na hÉireann
"The government of England" == Rialtas Shasana

I'm confused about the England phrase because Sasana is one of the country names that normally doesn't take the definite article, so I'm not sure what to do when I want to say "The <blank> of England"


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 Post subject: Re: Government of...
PostPosted: Sat 07 Dec 2019 11:50 am 
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Vitaee wrote:
How would you say THE government of Ireland or England?

My guess is that

"The government of Ireland" == Rialtas na hÉireann
"The government of England" == Rialtas Shasana

I'm confused about the England phrase because Sasana is one of the country names that normally doesn't take the definite article, so I'm not sure what to do when I want to say "The <blank> of England"



De ghrá an chruinnis - níl a leithéid de rud ann agus "The Government of England".


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 Post subject: Re: Government of...
PostPosted: Sat 07 Dec 2019 9:03 pm 
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Errigal wrote:
De ghrá an chruinnis - níl a leithéid de rud ann agus "The Government of England".


Níl Rialtas Shasana ann fós. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Government of...
PostPosted: Sat 07 Dec 2019 11:06 pm 
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Umm, I appreciate the responses, but generally answers in English are preferable.


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 Post subject: Re: Government of...
PostPosted: Sun 08 Dec 2019 4:53 pm 
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They're saying that there isn't a government of England, well not yet anyway. ...it would be probably more accurate to say: of the UK - na Ríochta Aontaithe, or of GB - na Breataine Móire, of course there's Scotland, Wales (and even Norn Iron if they ever get round to it) that do have their own, but that's another story.......(If you have a UK passport, the name of the country is included there in both Irish and Welsh.)

Sorry about that :facepalm:


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 Post subject: Re: Government of...
PostPosted: Sun 08 Dec 2019 10:01 pm 
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franc 91 wrote:
They're saying that there isn't a government of England, well not yet anyway. ...it would be probably more accurate to say: of the UK - na Ríochta Aontaithí,


Rialta na Ríochta Aontaithe
... fiú amháin má bhí dhá ... oh, sorry, even though there were two unions

Vitaee wrote:
so I'm not sure what to do when I want to say "The <blank> of England"


"The <blank> of England" = <blank> Shasana


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 Post subject: Re: Government of...
PostPosted: Mon 09 Dec 2019 10:33 pm 
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Ok, so if I wanted to say "I don't like the English government" in Irish, then the correct translation would be....

Ní maith liom an rialtas Shasana
Ní maith liom rialtas Shasana
Ní maith liom rialtas na Breataine Móire

Which of those would be the most correct?


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 Post subject: Re: Government of...
PostPosted: Tue 10 Dec 2019 6:01 pm 
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Vitaee wrote:
Ok, so if I wanted to say "I don't like the English government" in Irish, then the correct translation would be....

Ní maith liom an rialtas Shasana
Ní maith liom rialtas Shasana
Ní maith liom rialtas na Breataine Móire

Which of those would be the most correct?


right/ wrong

There is no article in rialtas Shasana and never will be.


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 Post subject: Re: Government of...
PostPosted: Thu 12 Dec 2019 8:14 pm 
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The reason I made that mistake is that I checked it up on - An Draoi Gramadaí - and that is what they give for the genitive singular, for the genitive plural, they give - na ríochtaí aontaitheacha. I thought it was a bit odd, but that is what's there.


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 Post subject: Re: Government of...
PostPosted: Tue 17 Dec 2019 6:49 am 
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Thanks all for the education. The Irish language is most definitely a different way of thinking than Englis.
:GRMA:


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