I don't think anyone else needs to listen to know it's wrong -- you've already told us it is.

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I'm looking for confirmation, Niall. I'm familiar with Ulster Irish and somewhat with Connacht, but less so with Munster. ARE there any native dialects in which T and D are pronounced the way she's pronouncing them? If I'm wrong, I'll back down on my stance on this.

Yes, as always, second-guessing myself.

Redwolf

I went through it. Apart from the middle two minutes, which I ignore here, I logged what I heard:

1.10 - “the same sounds as in English”
1.21 -'caol' pronounced as 'qeeal'
1.53 - “vowels spread their quality”
2.01 -'t' is plain, but it is anyway as it is a loanword
2.19 -'r' in 'cuirtín' said to be slender
2.38 -the broad r sounds kind of reflex, tho there is a puff of air. Slender is good
2.42 - “slight difference, and not the most important one”
2.48 - “most important ones” -I suspect the differences from English will be used
3.06 - “broad t sounds like the letter 't'”
3.24 - “broad d sounds like 'd'”
3. 38 - “broad l sounds like the letter 'l'”
3.42 - “slender l sounds like 'ly' as in 'Liam', 'baile', 'peil'
3.51 - “broad n sounds like the letter 'n'”
3.56 – examples given: 'níl', 'sloinne'
4.15 -example of 'neart pronounced with English retroflex
4.35 – 'caol' queeled again
4.40 – 'Saoirse' heavily retroflexed
4.49 – 'eala' and 'deas' -the vowel is higher than in Irish (more American)
4.56 - 'ceimic' pronounced with a plain English c
5.11 -'deireadh' and 'cuiridh' said with broad r
5.18 -same again, with 'cuiridh' more retroflex?
5.25 -sounds like an American imitating an Irish person on 'beo'!
5.38 -5.40 -same plain c for both 'tiocfaidh' and 'feicfidh'
5.50 -'fuath' said with English labio-dental 'f'
6.00 -in 'gliondar' and 'gloine' the same plain English 'g' and velarised l
6.02 -'duine' -no palatal 'n'

8.00 - “consonant gets 'flavoured' as broad or slender by the vowels adjacent to it
8.49 – “it's in the back of your throat” for /x/...
9.59 - “no séimhiú possible on letters 'h' or 'l'”
10.27 -10.31 -both broad and slender f made as plain English labio-dental
12.34 -both m sounds the same
12.46 -no Irish broad or slender difference between g sounds, only the same velar/plain difference due to the frontedness of backedness of the vowel as in English
13.46 -both 'ng' sounds the same
14.04 – both b sounds the same

Basically, it's an honest attempt, but when actually pronouncing a number of words, the distinctions are not made.
Also, they assume the broad and slender distinction varies by vowels, but this is not the case, a point I've often seen confused. At least she tries, unlike Irish people

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I commented on her video (in a short form ), but noticed the comment is missing unless you are logged in, which won't be most people

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You commented on YouTube?
I don't see it.

Its hard to find God lately, he's probably too busy canvasing for the Republican party at the moment..

I couldn't tell there was much of a difference when I compared the pronunciation of -t- in tae (1:58) against the examples in teanglann http://www.teanglann.ie/en/fuaim/tae - except for the accent of course.

I can't tell much of a difference in the way I pronounce -t- in English and Irish. Then again, -t- doesn't really exist in Hiberno-English, its usually pronounced as -d-. Maybe I'm using Irish -t- to pronounce -t- in English .

On a side note, unlike Ulster Irish, Munster Irish speakers never pronounce slender-t-, like -tj-, or slender -d- as -j-:

Cf. te http://www.teanglann.ie/en/fuaim/te and Dia http://www.focloir.ie/en/dictionary/ei/god?q=God#god__1

Overall, there are a few issues with the video; but it really is quite a good effort- I have seen some shockers.

This is probably the worst example of mispronunciation I have ever come across from an educational video*:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=18&v=73ppYkf6dfY

Even when the person attempts to put on some weird 'accent', he still pronounces words incorrectly .

*Lughaidh, you better grab a glass and take a swig of whiskey before you look at it; actually, don't bother with the glass, by the time the video ends you'll probably being drinking from the bottle anyway .



I can't see your messages either, even when I'm logged in.


Cian

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Please wait for corrections/ more input from other forum members before acting on advice

She does some mistakes but overall she is pretty good. Sad to say better than most Irish people who learn Irish in school.

My user name is Séamus and my avatar is an 'apple fish'. I wonder was it masked by the account owner

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Probably. Which explains why all the comments are positive. She is blocking any too critical.

So I'm assuming my comment about broad t and d isn't showing up there either?

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