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PostPosted: Thu 26 Feb 2015 9:34 am 
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I just wanted double check about this example sentence "Snámhann na mná ag an gcósta" would I be right in thinking that in Ulster Irish it would be "Snámhann na mná ag an chósta" ?

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Feb 2015 10:13 am 
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Cliathach wrote:
dia daoibh aríst a chairde.

I just wanted double check about this example sentence "Snámhann na mná ag an gcósta" would I be right in thinking that in Ulster Irish it would be "Snámhann na mná ag an chósta" ?

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:good: , except mná would be pronounced as mrá, as it is in Connacht Irish.

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Feb 2015 12:01 pm 
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I couldn't find any occurrence of "ag an chósta" in Tobar na Gaedhilge... And "ar an chósta" means "on the coast" (ie. not in the water).
Maybe "along the coast"? Foclóir.ie says "le cósta" or "feadh an chósta" (not in TnaG either).

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Lughaidh wrote:
I couldn't find any occurrence of "ag an chósta" in Tobar na Gaedhilge... And "ar an chósta" means "on the coast" (ie. not in the water).
Maybe "along the coast"? Foclóir.ie says "le cósta" or "feadh an chósta" (not in TnaG either).
An Cionnfhaolach wrote:
Cliathach wrote:
dia daoibh aríst a chairde.

I just wanted double check about this example sentence "Snámhann na mná ag an gcósta" would I be right in thinking that in Ulster Irish it would be "Snámhann na mná ag an chósta" ?

GRMA


:good: , except mná would be pronounced as mrá, as it is in Connacht Irish.


'maith agaibh a chairde. Bhí mé ach cleachtadh(?) an ábhar "preposition + an". Chonaic mé an abairt sin ar an shuíomh(can a "h" go there?) "Duolingo". An mbíonn séimhiú i 'chuile áit sa Ghaeilge Uladh nuair a úsáideann tú "preposition + an"?

Thanks lads, I was practicing the use of prepositions and the definite article. I saw the sentence on Duolingo. Do you always use a séimhiú (with nouns that can take it) in Ulster Irish when using a preposition and a definite article? Apologies for the poor Irish, it's been a while since I've written any so thought I should get back into it. If there are any woeful mistakes in there I'd appreciate any corrections.


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PostPosted: Thu 26 Feb 2015 4:17 pm 
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Another example of Duolingo coming up with ridiculous sentences that no one would ever say.

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Feb 2015 4:39 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
Another example of Duolingo coming up with ridiculous sentences that no one would ever say.

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As much as I dislike some aspects of Duolingo, they're pretty blatant about not teaching you useful stuff. They say it makes vocabulary and sentence structure stick better. I believe you're expecting the wrong thing from the site if you want it all to be useful. However, there is no excuse for the SNAFU that was the audio.


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galaxyrocker wrote:
Redwolf wrote:
Another example of Duolingo coming up with ridiculous sentences that no one would ever say.

Redwolf


As much as I dislike some aspects of Duolingo, they're pretty blatant about not teaching you useful stuff. They say it makes vocabulary and sentence structure stick better. I believe you're expecting the wrong thing from the site if you want it all to be useful. However, there is no excuse for the SNAFU that was the audio.


And what's "sticking" is bad grammar and useless sentences.

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PostPosted: Thu 26 Feb 2015 6:33 pm 
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Most of the 'bad grammar' has been fixed, thanks to continuous reports and discussion. And, the thing isn't for the sentences to stick, but the words. Duolingo's philosophy is that you're more likely to learn the words for 'lion, and 'child' in a sentence like 'The lion eats the child'. Now, there are still some issues with Béarlachas and the audio, but it's much improved, though it shouldn't be anyone's main study method.

Not saying it's great, but, with audio off of course, it's a good way to get started or increase vocabulary. Not to mention it's completely free.


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Cliathach wrote:
'maith agaibh a chairde. Bhí mé ach cleachtadh(?) an ábhar "preposition + an".


ag cleachtadh an ábhair

Cliathach wrote:
Chonaic mé an abairt sin ar an shuíomh(can a "h" go there?) "Duolingo".


Hmm, I don't think "ar an shuíomh" is possible.
ar an suíomh in Standard Irish, Connacht and Munster
ar an tsuíomh in Ulster

Cliathach wrote:
An mbíonn séimhiú i 'chuile áit sa Ghaeilge Uladh nuair a úsáideann tú "preposition + an"?


Bíonn, déarfainn.

i nGaeilge Uladh (no article)


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