Hi all,

The site http://www.nualeargais.ie/gnag/gramadac.htm would be pretty well known and it seems to have all the answers to any question I have ever had about Irish, and I usually have it open all the time while I am studying, usually to check up on Syntax of the Copula/Verbal Noun. However, I was wondering if there is an actual physical book out there that is just as good or better, and laid out in a similar way since I like to keep a book on hand. I do have Ó Siadhail's LI, but it's not as easy to search through the lesson format of that book.

You can download it and put in a folder, if you want to. If you look, there's a whole section about learning materials here on the forum. It also depends to a certain extent on which dialect you're interested in. I have Collins Easy Learning Irish Grammar and these two that you can get second-hand - Irish Grammar - A Basic Handbook by Noel McGonagle and New Irish Grammar by The Christian Brothers. Wombat has also compiled an on-line grammar guide.

I haven't run across anything as good as the nualeargais.ie site. It's got lots of dialectal forms from actual native speech that apparently can't be found anywhere else on-line, nor in any grammar book that I am aware of.

er … How do you do that?

You click (right) on the page - when you do that, it gives you a choice of what you can do then - on mine it says 'enregistre sous...' (I'm in France so I don't know what you would have) - I click on that, it goes to the téléchargement page where again I click on the enregistrement button that pops up and lastly you open it up when you have finished downloading to make sure it has worked. You can also create a word dossier (sorry - file) if you click on individual lines and scroll down. I have already started downloading pages of grammar from this forum and the other one for my own private use. You can also download from the various Internet Archive sites where you can find books in Irish that are long out of print and then there's the Cork Irish Wordpress site where you download the pages and the sound files - it's explained in the learning materials section.

When I said a folder - I meant a real ring folder which you fill with what we call here pochettes - transparent punched pockets, I think is what you call them in English - and then you can slide the printed pages into those and so then you have a complete file of whatever you want - grammar, bilingual texts, literature srl.

There's a comprehensive Irish grammar written in English, called A Grammar of Modern Irish, by Pól Ó Muirí, on sale on Trinity College Dublin's website, for instance.

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Thanks franc! – I'll get to work on it.

Ana-mhaith ar fad! I know that you wouldn't recommend it unless it includes grammar points of actual native speech.

I can endorse the grammar book Lughaidh recommended. Picked it up a few weeks ago when in Dublin, I've not had that much time to study it in depth, but it looks as though it's a supplement to the Brothers' Grammar. It follows a similar layout anyway.
Some excellent stuff in it.

It's not a supplement, it's a kind of English adaptation of it, with new features in it.



well, it's standard Irish. I can only recommend grammars of standard Irish since there's almost no dialectal grammar on sale, and the few dialectal ones aren't comprehensive, and are very hard if not impossible to find (except in libraries).

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I have that same one (are you sure it's not Pól Ó Murchú?), and I really like it. Super useful if you have Christian Brother's as well. Kinda technical, however.

I have that same one (are you sure it's not Pól Ó Murchú?), and I really like it. Super useful if you have Christian Brother's as well. Kinda technical, however.