http://www.thejournal.ie/clondalkin-cou ... 7-Feb2012/



This is a country of course that thinks you can legislate everything

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I will follow this story with interest.

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Disdain

I will ignore speeling with the same alclarity. I don't know whhat that word means either

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Bí cinnte de go nglacfaidh triúr le gach aistriúchán a thabharfar.
Be sure to get three in agreement with a translation given.

Thats Crazy, sure why not just make the whole Island a Gaeltacht.
I know there is a strong Irish language movement in the area.
But not only does it not have a unbroken tradition or a core of native speakers , the number of everyday speakers is still a low proportion of the general populace.

Maybe if they managed to have Irish used as a widely employed community language, but they are no where near that.

they have a similar plan for Clare Island, http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option ... &Itemid=46

sure give them support in their effort, , but maybe concentrate more on places their is an existing native speaking population?

For Example, Achill, right beside it. a large minority of native speakers, mostly elderly. But maybe try something like the language nest system successfully employed in New zealand and Canada, where elderly native speakers teach it to 0-5 year olds on a daily basis through play.

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I support people's efforts to promote Irish and I find the 'purists' quite annoying at times but if you heard the average speaker from the all-Irish secondary school out there in Clondalkin you might not be so hopeful for the future of Irish!

One example of many I have heard is: "Just faigheann tú ar aghaidh leis" - You just get on with it.

Still there is a definite positivity towards Irish (if you can call it that)...

But sure that would be using commonsense, but then we must reflect that we have this Fine Gael and Labour government in power whose real aim is to kill off the Gaeilge as quietly, as quickly, and as without fuss as is humanly possible, a chara.
Making a place like Clondalkin a gaeltacht is just another way of taking away what little funds that might become available from real ideas like the above and from the real gaeltacht.
... perhaps better i nGaeilge
Agus gaeltacht a dhéanamh as áit mar Chluain Dolcáin - b'shin bealach eile leis an méid suarach féin airgid a d'fhéadfadh teacht an bealach a choinneáil amach ó smaointe fónta mar atá luaite thuas agus i bhfad amach ó na gaeltachtaí cearta, a chara.

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Bí cinnte de go nglacfaidh triúr le gach aistriúchán a thabharfar.
Be sure to get three in agreement with a translation given.

The goal may be to further water down the meaning of 'Gaeltacht'. When we consider that approximately 25% of Gaeltacht residents speak Irish habitually today (i.e. outside of a classroom) the idea of the Gaeltacht probably needs to be redefined. The Gaeltacht Act 2012 only goes part of the way and basically gives the State a free pass to do next to nothing for Irish.

The language planning expert Seosamh Mac Donnacha of NUI Galway has gone so far as to state that there is no longer a single community where the majority speak Irish the majority of the time. I am somewhat sceptical of this claim since upwards of 65-68% of locals are habitual speakers in the strongest communities and 90% or more claim to be able to speak Irish, assuming individuals filled out their census forms in good faith.

Urban Irish speakers can learn a lot from those living in Carn Tóchair, who may succeed in cultivating a largely bilingual adult population within 20 years due to their emphasis on socialisation and early childhood education through the medium of Irish.

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Is foghlaimeoir mé. Is fearr liom Gaeilge Chonnacht. Corrections always appreciated.