Cool map!!


Yeah, when I say Scots Ulster, I mean Ulster Irish influenced by Scottish Gaelic. Examples are to be found in the grammar and morphology of those dialects, such as treatment of the relative clause.


Oriel Irish came right up to just before BallyConnell, just before the panhandle of Cavan, and similarly into east Fermanagh.

Most of Fermanagh would have been a transition zone between the Connacht type dialect of Cavan and West Ulster, the last native speakers of Fermanagh Irish (Felix MacManus and his sons) were from the lake region just across the border, not too far from Clogher and had essentially the same Irish as those in Cavan. There are a few samples of Fermanagh Irish, but no proper study was done, as it was for Leitrim and Cavan Irish.

I should say that Mayo and Cavan were both Ulster-like Connacht dialects, although they weren't really closely more related to each other. Cavan Irish was only slightly different from Leitrim Irish (the last Cavan speakers simply said that Leitrim Irish had a slightly different cadence). So possibly the more accurate thing would be to have Northern Connacht Irish just cover Mayo, Sligo, Leitrim and West Cavan.

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

Kilkenny was essentially Déise type Irish, as were parts of east Clare. The only question marks would be Wexford, but even here there is evidence of Déise type diphthongs.

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

Leitrim and Cavan were always close (given they were both Briefne). More recent times have moved them more apart.

The same for Fermanagh. In earlier times, there would have been more of a continuum and not the more marked ump there is in Hiberno-English

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I believe Connacht Irish is properly subdivded into (North western) Mayo, General, "Breifne" and Conamara. There is a book going to be published on unique Breifne dialect words within in the next few years, the same series already has one for Oriel Irish:

http://www.litriocht.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=6704#.Uswqb7NmogQ

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

Maith an fear for that!

I suppose if one were to map phonology, lexis and syntax separately one might be able to see nicer shades

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So was Cavan Briefnie Irish or Oriel?

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The panhandle until just after BallyConnell was Breifne, and the rest of the county was Oriel.

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

ok mar seo?

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Why was Fermanagh not recorded? BS politics?

And I wonder did Thomond, Desmond and Ormond vary much in form.

I do wish there was more of a link up between Gaelic scholars and language enthusiasts

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Daithí,
what software/webservice did you use for this?

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