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PostPosted: Sat 08 Jun 2013 9:04 am 
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Breandán wrote:
I say people who call Irish "dead" in my presence are at risk of being "deaded" themselves. :ninja:

:^+: wúhú....doutcha Brendan boyo!!!!!That's the spirit....an G :ninja: haoluinn bhreá bhinn go deo!!!!


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PostPosted: Sat 08 Jun 2013 9:20 am 
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Dead? Seems fairly feckin' lively for a corpse! :darklaugh:

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Jun 2013 10:07 am 
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Saoirse wrote:
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Lughaidh...I don't know if it's an American thing or if it's just a "my family" thing, but there seems to be a perception that spending the time to learn a language that you don't "need" to speak and that gives you no economic advantage is a waste of time. I've had people ask, for example, why I haven't spent all this time learning Spanish (which is economically useful in California) or a language that might come in handy while traveling, such as French, Italian, or German.
I think this is the situation in countries that are mainly English-speaking. Many people use the 'need' argument, but they do mean 'need' in the sense of trade etc. They ignore the 'need' of cultural identity, sense of ownership, history etc. English-speaking countries are lazy about languages. Two thirds of the world's population is bilingual - I bet not too many of that statistic come from English-speaking countries.

It's not specific to English speakers -- it's any monolingual speaker of a relatively large language. French people will understand you learning German, Chinese etc but ask why you'd want to learn Breton, Basque whatever. Spanish people will understand you learning French, Japanese etc, but Platt? What would you want to learn that for? etc etc.

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Jun 2013 11:17 am 
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NiallBeag wrote:
Saoirse wrote:
Redwolf wrote:
Lughaidh...I don't know if it's an American thing or if it's just a "my family" thing, but there seems to be a perception that spending the time to learn a language that you don't "need" to speak and that gives you no economic advantage is a waste of time. I've had people ask, for example, why I haven't spent all this time learning Spanish (which is economically useful in California) or a language that might come in handy while traveling, such as French, Italian, or German.
I think this is the situation in countries that are mainly English-speaking. Many people use the 'need' argument, but they do mean 'need' in the sense of trade etc. They ignore the 'need' of cultural identity, sense of ownership, history etc. English-speaking countries are lazy about languages. Two thirds of the world's population is bilingual - I bet not too many of that statistic come from English-speaking countries.

It's not specific to English speakers -- it's any monolingual speaker of a relatively large language. French people will understand you learning German, Chinese etc but ask why you'd want to learn Breton, Basque whatever. Spanish people will understand you learning French, Japanese etc, but Platt? What would you want to learn that for? etc etc.
That is probably mainly true, but it seems that Chinese people are learning English in relatively large numbers, but I'm not sure that English speakers are learning Chinese with the same enthusiasm!

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