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 Post subject: Dates in Irish
PostPosted: Fri 24 May 2013 2:13 am 
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How would you say 16 March 2013 (or US March 16, 2013)?

Here's how I'd say it:

16(ú) Márta 2013
an séú lá déag de Man Mhárta sa bhliain dhá mhíle is a trí déag

I understand the has always been optional in Irish, i.e., it is not just omitted because -th is normally dropped nowadays in English.

I suppose you could also probably just have den Mhárta?

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 Post subject: Re: Dates in Irish
PostPosted: Fri 24 May 2013 3:08 am 
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Breandán wrote:
How would you say 16 March 2013 (or US March 16, 2013)?

Here's how I'd say it:

16(ú) Márta 2013
an séú lá déag de mhí na Márta sa bhliain dhá mhíle is a trí déag

I understand the has always been optional in Irish, i.e., it is not just omitted because -th is normally dropped nowadays in English.

I suppose you could also probably just have den Mhárta?


I always write it and been shown to write it as:

An 6ú lá (the ú being small and elevated) déag de mhí na Márta/den Mhárta 2013
An 6úlá déag den Mhárta 2013

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 Post subject: Re: Dates in Irish
PostPosted: Fri 24 May 2013 3:45 am 
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An Cionnfhaolach wrote:
An 6ú lá (the ú being small and elevated) ...

Like this: An 6ú lá déag ?

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 Post subject: Re: Dates in Irish
PostPosted: Fri 24 May 2013 12:58 pm 
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I learnt you had to use a capital letter in "Mhí" in dates.
de Mhí na Márta.

Btw, in Ulster Márta is masculine so we say "do Mhí an Mhárta" :)

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 Post subject: Re: Dates in Irish
PostPosted: Fri 24 May 2013 1:09 pm 
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Breandán wrote:
An Cionnfhaolach wrote:
An 6ú lá (the ú being small and elevated) ...

Like this: An 6ú lá déag ?


:yes: , although Márta can also be masculine in Munster also!

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 Post subject: Re: Dates in Irish
PostPosted: Fri 24 May 2013 3:06 pm 
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An Cionnfhaolach wrote:
… although Márta can also be masculine in Munster also!
To-day is Friday May 24th 2013
Is é an lá inniu an Aoine an ceathrú lá is fiche de mhí na Bealtaine dhá mhíle is a trídéag.
Okay, hopefully that's right.

* A couple of questions:
How would you say: To-day is Friday May 31st 2013

Also, does anybody know how to write "the month of …" for all of the months? – "the month of January", "the month of April", etc.

The only ones that I know for sure are:
mí na Feabhra or mí na Féile Bríde
mí na Bealtaine
mí na Lúnasa
mí na Samhna
mí na Nollag
and now
mí an Mhárta

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 Post subject: Re: Dates in Irish
PostPosted: Fri 24 May 2013 4:39 pm 
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Looks like Lughaidh is correct about the capital M on Mhí (according to Learning Irish), and Márta is masculine in Connemara too. Fixed above.

:??: Hmm, interesting. TYI doesn't bother with a capital. No mention in GGnamBC or An Caighdeán. Guess it must be optional. Personally, I look on it as part of the name of the month, so the capital makes sense.

Working from WFM's list, and filling in the gaps from other sources, we have:

1. Eanáir or Mí Eanáir or an chéad mhí den bhliain
2. Feabhra or Mí na Feabhra or Mí na Féile Bríde
3. Márta or An Márta or Mí an Mhárta
4. Aibreán or An tAibreán or Mí Aibreáin
5. Bealtaine or An Bhealtaine or Mí na Bealtaine
6. Meitheamh or an Mheitheamh or Mí an Mheithimh
7. Iúil or Mí Iúil
8. Lúnasa or Mí na Lúnasa or Mí Lúnasa
9. Meán Fómhair or Mí Meán Fómhair
10. Deireadh Fómhair or Mí Deireadh Fómhair
11. Samhain or Mí na Samhna
12. Nollaig or Mí na Nollag

WeeFalorieMan wrote:
Is é an lá inniu an Aoine ...

According to TYI, you can also just say Inniu an Aoine ... for that, and in Connemara it would be Inniu Dé hAoine ... (whereas is only used adverbially in Munster.)

WeeFalorieMan wrote:
How would you say: To-day is Friday May 31st 2013

"Today is Friday 31 May 2013."
Inniu Dé hAoine/an Aoine an t-aonú lá dhéag is fiche dhá mhíle is a trí déag

Looks like it is also an t-aonú lá is fiche for "the twenty-first" (not an chéad lá is fiche*). :D

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 Post subject: Re: Dates in Irish
PostPosted: Fri 24 May 2013 5:50 pm 
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So, "the month of April" is mí Aibreán?

And "the month of October" is mí Deireadh Fómhair?

Just double-checking …


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 Post subject: Re: Dates in Irish
PostPosted: Fri 24 May 2013 5:59 pm 
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Most commonly in Munster you have:

An ceathrú lá fichead = 24th.

An t-aonú lá dhéag ar fhichid = 31st.

Although the forms above are also correct, just less frequent.

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 Post subject: Re: Dates in Irish
PostPosted: Fri 24 May 2013 6:03 pm 
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WeeFalorieMan wrote:
So, "the month of April" is mí Aibreán?

And "the month of October" is mí Deireadh Fómhair?

Just double-checking …

Probably Mí Aibreáin and Mí Deireadh Fómhair, but I wasn't able to confirm those directly.

Not sure why Meán isn't lenited in Mí Meán Fomhair in Learning Irish, either. Colloquial Irish has Mí Mheán Fómhair and Mí Dheireadh Fómhair. (And TYI has Meán Fhómhair. :panic: )

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