Ceist agam oraibh a chairde.

I know this has been alluded to before, but I can't remember the explanation that was given (if any). What is the difference in usage between Dé Luain and ar an Luan?

Aren't these the same in meaning?:

Feicfidh mé thú (tú?) ar an Luan
Feicfidh mé thú Dé Luain


One more thing - I see a question on a pre-Junior Cert exam that one of the companies has brought out.

Thosaigh na Cluichí Oilimpeacha ar ………….. hAoine 27 Iúil.

Surely ar Dé hAoine is wrong? I know I'd never say it.

ar an Luan is on Mondays, every Monday
Dé Luain is last Monday or next Monday.



I'll see you on Mondays
and
I'll see you next Monday




Nobody would, except some learner that hasn't learnt the proper way to use days' names yet

Should be: Dé hAoine
It's in an exam? Well, it's getting worse and worse then, on top of not teaching it properly, they make mistakes in the exams -- what happens when a pupil knows the right answer and complains?...
A Ghaeilg bhocht...

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Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne

This gave me a cold shiver as I had flashbacks to the monster réamhfhocail thread! viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1375&hilit=r%C3%A9amhfhocal

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In that particular case I'd say -

Thosaigh na Cluichí Oilimpeacha ar an Aoine 27 Iúil.

or

Thosaigh na Cluichí Oilimpeacha Dé hAoine, an 27 Iúil.

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It is recommended that you always wait for three to agree on a translation.
I speak Connemara Irish, and my input will often reflect that.
I will do an mp3 file on request for short translations.
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Thanks for the replies. I have no doubt that I was taught Feicfidh me thú ar an Luan means I'll see you on Monday (as opposed to 'Mondays'). The question I quoted from the Mock Junior Cert paper simply shows the low standards these companies have. They are private companies who employ individual teachers to draw up exam papers for them which are in the style of the State exams. Sometimes they are okay, sometimes not at all. BTW, hardly a year goes by without there being at least one error on the actual Leaving cert and Junior Cert papers.

There was a similar problem that came up in another thread and was never properly resolved:

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1617&p=14405

Bríd, do you have any suggestions for how to join ag tnúth go mór le ~ and a particular day such as Dé hAoine "(this) Friday"? Is ag tnúth go mór leis an Aoine okay in that context? or should we add an lá, for instance, ag tnúth go mór leis an lá Dé hAoine ? or should some other construction be used?

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

I wouldn't use "lá".

Tá mé ag súil go mór leis an Aoine.
I am looking forward to (next) Friday

Bíonn mé ag súil go mór leis an Aoine.
I look forward to Fridays.

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It is recommended that you always wait for three to agree on a translation.
I speak Connemara Irish, and my input will often reflect that.
I will do an mp3 file on request for short translations.
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Ah, yes, tá vs bíonn. That solves it.

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).