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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012 9:09 pm 
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Cén chaoi a bhfuil tú?
Goidé mar atá tú? (Ulster)

seem to be the usual ways to say 'How are you?'. In school, I learned 'Conas atá tú?' Do any native speakers actually use 'Conas atá tú?'

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Oct 2012 9:48 pm 
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Saoirse wrote:
Cén chaoi a bhfuil tú?
Goidé mar atá tú? (Ulster)

seem to be the usual ways to say 'How are you?'. In school, I learned 'Conas atá tú?' Do any native speakers actually use 'Conas atá tú?'


"Conas atá tú?" is basically the standardised version of the Munster phrase "modern: Conas 't(h)ánn tú; older: Cion(n)u/as 't(h)ánn tu? (no ú on tu); or conas taoi etc...?)".

I would imagine it is said somewhat by native speakers but only those that have been influenced by the school system.

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I'm familiar with Munster Irish/ Gaolainn na Mumhan (GM) and the Official Standard/an Caighdeán Oifigiúil (CO)


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Something is telling me that they would have said it in places in Clare when the dialect was alive in the county, but it wouldn't be said in any Gaeltacht you would look too much of a beginner saying Conas tá tú to native speakers.


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Benjamin wrote:
Something is telling me that they would have said it in places in Clare when the dialect was alive in the county, but it wouldn't be said in any Gaeltacht you would look too much of a beginner saying Conas tá tú to native speakers.

Native speakers in Munster (in the Gaeltacht, anyway) definitely say "Conas tánn tú?" and "Conas taoi?"


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Oct 2012 10:47 pm 
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Native speakers in Munster (in the Gaeltacht, anyway) definitely say "Conas tánn tú?" and "Conas taoi?"


I know that - I didn't say they don't


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PostPosted: Sun 14 Oct 2012 1:24 am 
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Benjamin wrote:
Something is telling me that they would have said it in places in Clare when the dialect was alive in the county, but it wouldn't be said in any Gaeltacht you would look too much of a beginner saying Conas tá tú to native speakers.


But it would be easily understood. A friend of mine used to say 'conas tánn tú...' whenever he met me many years ago and we chatted from there... He is from West Cork and I can still hear him on RnaG now and then... but I doubt he'd still remember me now!!

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Oct 2012 2:30 am 
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In summary:

Cé' chaoi a bhfuil tú ? "How are you ?" (GC)
Goidé mar atá tú ? "How are you ?" (GU)
Conas atánn tú ? or Conas taoi ? "How are you?" (GM)
Conas atá tú ? "How are you ?" (CO)

Broadly speaking.

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Oct 2012 2:41 am 
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Benjamin wrote:
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I know that - I didn't say they don't


Yes, now you know that – now that I told you! ;)


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PostPosted: Sun 14 Oct 2012 2:43 am 
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Breandán wrote:
In summary:

Cé' chaoi a bhfuil tú ? "How are you ?" (GC)
Goidé mar atá tú ? "How are you ?" (GU)
Conas atánn tú ? or Conas taoi ? "How are you?" (GM)
Conas atá tú ? "How are you ?" (CO)

Broadly speaking.

Well, you summed it up nicely, Breandán :good:

One small point: I think people say "Conas 'tánn tú?" (not "atánn")

Just lettin' ya know :D


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PostPosted: Sun 14 Oct 2012 2:58 am 
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Thanks, WFM. :wave:

Actually, I don't think anyone really pronounces the a in atá/athá very clearly, if at all. It's a schwa (indefinite vowel) /ə/ and schwa often gets dropped in rapid speech. Historically it can either be explicitly written or omitted.

In fact, FGB gives two versions: conas tá tú ? and conas taoi ? without a.

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