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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012 5:35 pm 
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Hi, this is my first post!

I would like to have this song written phonetically to know how to pronounce it in Munster Irish.

Dhá mbeinn trí léig i bhfarraige nó ar sléibhte i bhfad ó thír
Gan aoinneach beo i mo ghaobhar ann ach raithneach ghlas is fraoch,
An sneachta á shéideadh anuas orm, is an ghaoith dhá fhuadach díom,
'S mé a bheith ag comhrá le mo Taimín Bán, níorbh fhada liom an oíche.

A Mhuire dhílis, céard a dhéanfas mé, tá an geimhreadh seo 'tíocht fuar,
A Mhuire dhílis, céard a dhéanfas an teach seo is a bhfuil ann?
Nach óg, a stór, a d'imigh tú, le linn na huaire breá,
Le linn don chuach bheith ag seinm ceoil, gach duilliúr glas ag fás.

Má bhíonn mo chlann sa mbaile a'am an oíche a bhfaighidh mé bás,
Ó tórróidh siad go groíúil mé trí oíche is trí lá;
Beidh píopaí deasa cailce a'am agus ceaigeannaí is iad lán,
Beidh triúr ban óg ó shléibhte ann le mé a chaoineadh os cionn cláir.

Is gearraí amach mo chónra dhom as fíorscoth geal na gclár,
Má tá Seán Ó hEidhin i Muínis bíodh sé déanta ón a láimh;
Bíodh mo chaipín is mo ribín inti istigh, é go rídheas ar mo cheann,
Tabharfadh Paidín Mór go Muínis mé nó is garbh a bhéas an lá.

Gabháil siar thar Inse Gaine dhom bíodh an bhratach insa gcrann,
Ná cuir' i Leitir Caladh mé mar ní ann atá mo dhream;
Ach tugaí siar go Muínis mé, 'n áit a gcaoinfear mé go hard,
Beidh soilse ar na dúmhchannaí - ní bheidh uaigneas orm ann.


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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012 5:42 pm 
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Can you read IPA, Irish phonology, or do you want a recording?...

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012 5:53 pm 
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IPA will do, I can read it, it's for my girlfriend.

Take your time a chairde I have all my time :)


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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012 6:19 pm 
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Welcome to the forum, a Chaoimhín.

Ahmrán Mhuínse is a Connemara song, so you would probably have to translate the dialect words over to Munster dialect first, tíocht => teacht, gabháil => dul, etc.

And even then the turn of phrase might not sound right to a Munster speaker ...

Here's a native singing it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upMFZX919eg

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012 6:34 pm 
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Breandán wrote:
It's a Connemara song, so you would probably have to translate the dialect words over to Munster dialect first, tíocht => teacht, gabháil => dul, etc.

And even then the turn of phrase might not sound right to a Munster speaker ...


Yes Conamara Irish but the thing is I don't want to change the lyrics. Anyway, if anyone can transcribe it phonetically in Conamara Irish in place of Munster Irish I would take it too, no problem.


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I added a link to a native Connemara speaker's version above, but it may have crossed your last post.

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012 8:09 pm 
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In Corca Dhuibhne (Munster) Irish it should be something like this:


dɒː mʲenʲ tʲɾʲiː lʲeːgʲ ɪ βɑrɪgʲɪ nuː ɛɾ ʃlʲeːβʲtʲɪ ɪ βɑd oː hiːɾʲ
gɑnˠ eːnʲaχ bʲə̆oː ɪ mə ɣeːβəɾ ɑwn aχ rənʲhaχ ɣlˠɑs ɪs ɸreːχ
ən ʃnʲaχtə dɒː heːdʲə ənuəs ɔɾəm, ɪs ə ɣeː dɒː uədəχ dʲiːm
s mʲeː βʲɛ koːɾɒː lʲɛ mə tɑmʲinʲ bɒːnˠ, nʲiːɾ βɑdə lʲɔm ənɰiːhɪ

ə βʷɪɾʲɪ jiːlʲɪʃ kɑd ə jianhə mʲeː, tɒː n gʲiːɾʲə so tʲaχt ɸuəɾ
ə βʷɪɾʲɪ jiːlʲɪʃ kɑd ə jiaːnhɪgʲ ə tʲigʲ ʃo ɪs ə βwɪlʲ ɑwn ?
nɒːχ oːg ə stoːɾ ə dʲɪmʲə tuː lʲeː lʲɪnʲ nə hueɾʲɪ bʲɾʲɒː
lʲeː lʲɪn dən χuəχ βʲɛ ʃɛmʲɪnʲtʲ kʲoːlʲ, gɑχ dɰɪlʲuɾ glˠɑs ə ɸɒːs

mɒː βʲiːn mə χlɑwn sə βɑlʲɪ agəm ənɰiːhɪ ə βɑj mʲeː bɒːs
oː toːroː ʃiəd gə gɾiːulʲ mʲeː tʲɾʲiː iːhɪ ɪs tʲɾʲiː lɒː
bʲegʲ pʲiːˈpwiː dʲasə kɑlʲkʲɪ agəm agəs kʲagʲənə ɪs iəd lɒːn
bʲegʲ tʲɾʲuːɾ bɑn oːg oː hlʲeːβʲtʲɪ ɑwn lʲeː mʲeː ə χɰiːnʲə ɔs kʲuːn klˠɒːɾʲ

ɪs gʲarigʲ əmɑχ mə χɔ͂ːɾə dɔm as ɸʲiːɾsko gʲal nə glˠɒːɾ
mɒː tɒː ʃɒːn oː hainʲ ɪ mwiːnʲɪʃ bʲiːχ ʃeː dʲiantə oːna lˠɒːβʲ
bʲiːχ mə χɑpʲiːnʲ ɪs mə ɾɪbʲiːnʲ iːnʲtʲi əʃtʲigʲ eː gə riːjas ɛɾ mə çawn,
tuːɾhigʲ pɑdʲiːn moːɾ gə mwiːnʲɪʃ mʲeː nuː ɪs gɑɾəβ ə βʲegʲ ə lɒː

dɔl ʃiəɾ hɑɾ iːnʲʃɪ gɑnʲɪ dɔm bʲiːχ ə βɾətɑχ ɪns ə gɾɑwn
nɒː kɰɪɾʲ ɪ lʲɛtʲɪɾ kɑlə mʲeː mɑɾ nʲiː ɑwn ətɒː mə jɾʲawm
aχ tʊgɰigʲ ʃiəɾ gə mwiːnʲɪʃ mʲeː n ɒːtʲ ə gɰiːnɸəɾ mʲeː gə hɒːrd
bʲegʲ sɰiːlʲʃɪ ɛɾ nə du͂ːχənə nʲiː βʲegʲ uegʲɪnʲəs ɔɾəm ɑwn

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012 10:28 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
In Corca Dhuibhne (Munster) Irish it should be something like this:


dɒː mʲenʲ tʲɾʲiː lʲeːgʲ ɪ βɑrɪgʲɪ nuː ɛɾ ʃlʲeːβʲtʲɪ ɪ βɑd oː hiːɾʲ
gɑnˠ eːnʲaχ bʲə̆oː ɪ mə ɣeːβəɾ ɑwn aχ rənʲhaχ ɣlˠɑs ɪs ɸreːχ
ən ʃnʲaχtə dɒː heːdʲə ənuəs ɔɾəm, ɪs ə ɣeː dɒː uədəχ dʲiːm
s mʲeː βɛ koːɾɒː lʲɛ mə tɑmʲinʲ bɒːnˠ, nʲiːɾ βɑdə lʲɔm ənɰiːhɪ

ə βʷɪɾʲɪ jiːlʲɪʃ kɑd ə jeːnhə mʲeː, tɒː n gʲiːɾʲə so tʲaχt ɸuəɾ
ə βʷɪɾʲɪ jiːlʲɪʃ kɑd ə jeːnhɪgʲ ə tʲigʲ ʃo ɪs ə βwɪlʲ ɑwn ?
nɒːχ oːg ə stoːɾ ə dʲɪmə tuː lʲeː lʲɪnʲ nə hueɾʲɪ bʲɾʲɒː
lʲeː lʲɪn dən χuəχ βʲɛ ʃɛmʲɪnʲtʲ kʲoːlʲ, gɑχ dɰɪlʲuɾ glˠɑs ə ɸɒːs

mɒː βʲiːn mə χlɑwn sə βɑlʲɪ agəm ənɰiːhɪ ə βɑj mʲeː bɒːs
oː toːroː ʃiəd gə gɾiːulʲ mʲeː tʲɾʲiː iːhɪ ɪs tʲɾʲiː lɒː
bʲegʲ pʲiːˈpwiː dʲasə kɑlʲkʲɪ agəm agəs kʲagʲənə ɪs iəd lɒːn
bʲegʲ tʲɾʲuːɾ bɑn oːg oː hlʲeːβʲtʲɪ ɑwn lʲeː mʲeː ə χɰiːnʲə ɔs kʲuːn klˠɒːɾʲ

ɪs gʲarigʲ əmɑχ mə χɔ͂ːɾə dɔm as ɸʲiːɾskɔh gʲal nə glˠɒːɾ
mɒː tɒː ʃɒːn oː hainʲ ɪ mwiːnʲɪʃ bʲiːχ ʃeː dʲeːntə oːna lˠɒːβʲ
bʲiːχ mə χɑpʲiːnʲ ɪs mə ɾɪbʲiːnʲ iːnʲtʲi əʃtʲigʲ eː gə riːjas ɛɾ mə çawn,
tuːɾhigʲ pɑdʲiːn moːɾ gə mwiːnʲɪʃ mʲeː nuː ɪs gɑɾəβ ə βegʲ ə lɒː

dɔl ʃiəɾ hɑɾ iːnʲʃə gɑnʲɪ dɔm bʲiːχ ə βɾətɑχ ɪns ə gɾɑwn
nɒː kɰɪɾʲ ɪ lʲɛtʲɪɾ kɑlə mʲeː mɑɾ nʲiː ɑwn ətɒː mə jɾʲawm
aχ tʊgiː ʃiəɾ gə mwiːnʲɪʃ mʲeː n ɒːtʲ ə gɰiːnɸəɾ mʲeː gə hɒːrd
bʲegʲ siːlʲʃɪ ɛɾ nə du͂ːχəni nʲiː βegʲ uegʲnʲəs ɔɾəm ɑwn



Wow, that must have taken you a good while Lughaidh.

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012 10:29 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
Wow, that must have taken you a good while Lughaidh.
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PostPosted: Fri 30 Mar 2012 11:56 pm 
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I wish I could read it! I feel bad after all the work you went through, a Lughaidh. :darklaugh:

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