I thought about that one, too.

Or "tubh". See https://www.teanglann.ie/en/fgb/tubh

Would "tubhanta" be the form for that?

David, I am curious to know what you find out about all these terms.

I would have said:

luirgne tuircfheólach = fleshy shins, as such "boar fleshed"

go tufanta = accusingly (coming from tubh = to accuse)

buile bhalc = stiff anger/rigid rage, one might say "rigid with rage".

This is from a native speaker back when I first read Pinocchio years ago.

Nobody I ever asked was sure what ceabhramán was, though most guessed beetle as you said.

I agree with the need for a glossary. In my experience the number of even native speakers who can read a novel from pre-1950 completely unaided is quite low since the vocabulary back then was much more extensive.

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Thank you for those. I've got more queries on Ch3. Can we keep the thread open for Pinocchio queries?

I have only read up to Ch6. These queries are on Ch3:

1. Pinocchio modern edition p12: A dhailthín, is olc an tógaint tu! Does this mean "you've been brought up badly"? Or you're a bad creation (tógaint can mean "to build")?

2. Near end of p12: fiche fear go mbeadh clabhcaí bróg orthu - this must mean "clogs", but the word is not in dictionaries.

3. p13 - thug roinnt cútanála dho - not in dictionaries, but possibly "clip round the ear"?

4. p13 - do gheall sé tóinín te dho - a good hiding?

5. p16 - dob olc an banbh oscall agam tu - banbh means piglet, oscall means under your arm. Is Geppetto comparing Pinocchio to a micropig that you raise as a pet and keep under your arm or in a purse? What is banbh oscall?

No worries, please continue to post Pinocchio queries here. It'll be a fun discussion. I'll get to the Chapter 3 queries shortly but first:

As mentioned the original Italian is stinchi impresciuttiti. However here Collodi is using impresciuttiti as Colloquial Tuscan word referring to a way of cooking boar. As above "boar meat/flesh shins" seems to be the literal Irish, however unfortunately the Irish here doesn't really convey that its cured boar flesh and so wouldn't retain the original's meaning of dried up.

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I'd say so. Did your parents, or sadistic teachers, never threaten to warm your behind for you when you were a child for misbehaviour? Before it was outlawed, of course.

I've received some information about these words:

Labhrás, I'm sorry, I didn't think you were right when I read that post of yours, but it turns out you were spot on. As shown under truic-fheólach in Cnósach Focal ó Bhaile Bhúirne, so thank you.

Some of these things can be obscure even to native speakers, I guess...

Wow! Great to learn. I'm not surprised people I asked didn't know.

Well done on tuircfheolach Labhrás, even older native speakers I asked at the time got that wrong.

I actually find it incredible that a word meaning "skinny" underwent metathesis to become the same as a word meaning "boar meat" in the translation of an Italian phrase that refers to cooked boar meat to convey something being skinny.

What are the odds!

I must check if some of the same speakers know "truicfheolach".

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal