Sorry guys came across this in Liam Ó Maonlaís course

I’m from Dublin.
Is as Baile Átha Cliath domsa
I’m from Donegal.
Is as Dún na nGall dom

is there a difference? or is it because dublin is a town???

Hi

there's no link with the kind of place or whatever, just "dom" means "to me" and "domsa" means "to ME" (and not you or him).
Typically, you use the form in -sa (called "emphatic form") in answers, to emphasize what concerns you or what is different from what the other person said.

If someone asks
"Cá as tú?" (where are you from)
you'll answer: is as Baile Átha Cliath dom.

But if someone says
"Is as Cill Chainnigh dom" (I am from Kilkenny)
you'll answer
"is as Baile Átha Cliath domsa (*I* am from Dublin ; as far as *I* am concerned, I am from Dublin).

I hope it's clear enough

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perfect GRMA Lughaidh, I was making it too complicated

Good explanation !

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Have you looked this up in a grammar book? I think I'm right in saying that all prepositional pronouns have an emphatic form, but I'm sure someone else here can explain better than I can - táimse ina chodlach, is mise le meas, sinne, is leatsa an caipín, agus tusa? are some examples

Forgive me, I don't speak a word of Irish and know very little about the language...
When you say "as far as *I* am concerned" are you specifying the difference between the 2 parties speaking? (eg. I/me vs you/he)
or does it reference what one considers as the place they are from? (eg. moving to Dublin at an early age and having no memory of the town in which the individual was actually born)

Sorry... I may have answered my own question...


... which spawns another.

Are there corresponding words for "you", "he", "they", etc. or is it implied in the structure of the grammer?

It's actually the endings of the words you need to be concerned about: -sa/-se/-san. They're called "emphatic endings," and take the place of stressing a particular word to emphasize it.

For example, in English, we can say:

"It's my car" (a simple statement)

or...

"It's MY car" (as in it's not his or yours, but MINE).

In Irish, rather than putting a particular stress on the word, we add one of the emphatic endings:

Is é mo charr: It's my car

Is é mo charrsa: It's MY car (not yours, dammit!)

So I guess the simple answer is "yes"...any pronoun, prepositional pronoun or noun can take an emphatic ending.

You encounter them often with pronouns, for example:

Mé = me/I. Mise = ME/I

Tú = you. Tusa = YOU

Etc.

Redwolf

"As far as I am concerned" doesn't mean what you think it means (ie it's not "en tant que moi"). "As far as I'm concerned" is used to express an opinion and state that you're not going to change it. If someone says "as far as I'm concerned," there's no point arguing with them, and you'll have to agree to differ.

Back to the point: the -se/-sa/-san endings are usually described as "emphatic", but I prefer to talk about them as being used for contrast. In English, if you stressed the "I" in "I'm from Dublin", you'd sound a bit like a kid who was saying it in a snobby way -- ie "<i>I</i>'m from <i>Dublin</i>; your just some bog-trotting gobshite."

But in Irish, the contrast pronouns don't have that sense of disapproval or distancing. It's not even particularly emphatic in real use.

Basically, you cannot use a normal pronoun when discussing two different parties and the same topic, as Lughaidh demonstrated.

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