AnCanúnaighe wrote:
Dia is Muire dhuit!
Typically Irish has two r sounds:
- a broad r [ɾˠ], which is a velarised tap or flap, almost identical to the Spanish r in pero.
I find it interesting that you say '
almost identical' because it ties in with something I have wondered about in the past.
Spanish 'pero' has a (plain) alveolar tap i.e. [ɾ].
Irish broad r is a velarised alveolar tap i.e. [ɾˠ].
Irish slender r is a palatalised alveolar tap i.e [ɾʲ] (at least in the default realisation of slender r).
So you might expect that the Spanish tapped r, having no secondary articulation, would be midway between Irish broad r and Irish slender r. But in practice, that is not the case. Spanish tapped r is far closer to Irish broad r than to Irish slender r. In fact, I personally can't hear a difference between Spanish tapped r and Irish broad r; and you will occasionally come across people who say that they are in fact the same. This is despite my understanding that a velarised consonant should sound deeper than its plain counterpart.
For instance, you might theoretically expect the difference between [ɾ] and [ɾˠ] to be the same as the difference in English between light l [l] (which is a plain consonant i.e. it has no secondary articulation) and dark l [lˠ] (which is velarised, thus giving it a deeper quality).