Here's a direct link: https://books.dias.ie/index.php?main_pa ... ucts_id=71

Ó Cuív's description of the sub-dialects of Munster is on the whole really quite good, as he makes reference to particular dialects that are no longer with us and have not been recorded to any great detail as far as I know. However, he can make some broad generalisations that are false/ or only partly true; which, to be fair one might expect in a general study of this type, he says so himself.

For instance, he states that where i is often diphthongised in Déise Irish, e.g. binn, it is not in East Cork Irish, i.e. Knockonore (technically Waterford) and Knockadoon. However, I have it on good authority - from someone who would have heard the last of the native Irish speakers from Dungourney - that they did quite frequently diphthongise the i as Déise speakers do.

For instance, notice Séamas Breatnach's (from Knockadoon, Ballymacoda) - http://www.doegen.ie/LA_1044d1 - diphthongisation of i in éinne and roimhe, very Déise like. He also displays features that would be very strong in (East) Muskerry, but would be atypical, or wouldn't occur as frequently anywhere else, such as the leniting of the th in sábháilthe. Examples like these are lovely because you get an idea of the dialectal continuum that used to run along the coast from Waterford to Cork and beyond.

Cian

Son #4 bought me Cré na Cille for my Kindle (He was so proud of finding me a book in Irish that I didn't have the heart to tell him it was Connemara Irish and I would likely find it close to unintelligible. Even Bríd once said it would be hard going).

I wish more of these type of things were available for Kindle. Bypass the shipping costs. Son #4 bought me Cré na Cille for my Kindle (He was so proud of finding me a book in Irish that I didn't have the heart to tell him it was Connemara Irish and I would likely find it close to unintelligible. Even Bríd once said it would be hard going).

even though I do agree that Munster is clearly the best .

Cian

It may be intelligible but not necessarily because it is in Connemara Irish; Ó Cadhain had a great knowledge of the Irish language and often had it in his mind to revitalise forms of the language that had long since died out, as well as including influences from Scottish Gaelic.

Either way it would do you no harm in reading it, I wouldn't limit your study of Irish to the Munster dialects alone. They are all equally as beautiful and important as each other; even though I do agree that Munster is clearly the best .

Cian

What kind of Kindle do you have? There's an app and ebook service, Scribd, which has a decent amount of Irish ebooks available online. I think every ebook from Cló Iar-Chonnachta and Leabhar Breac. They used to have An Gum's stuff as well, but it looks like it's been removed. For $8 a month (I think) you get access to 3 books and an ebook. Used to be unlimited, but they sadly changed it.

Only works on Kindle Fire as far as I know.



Why would anyone want to sound like a barbarian?