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PostPosted: Tue 16 Sep 2014 5:55 pm 
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In English I've heard a ton of mnemonics for remembering the directions when I was young (clockwise NESW: Never Eat Soggy Waffles, Never Eat Shredded Wheat, Naughty Elephants Squirt Water, Never Eat Slimy Worms)

I was just wondering if anyone has any good ones for the Irish versions? I saw a compass in a map in the beginning of "An Hobad" that used UOEI (Uaidh, Oir, Eas, Iar) and was just wondering if anyone had a clever trick for remembering the order.


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PostPosted: Tue 16 Sep 2014 10:31 pm 
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Mnemonics?! As a learner, it's all I can do to remember the actual words for each direction! :)


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The problem, of course, is how you express direction changes depending on whether the person is going toward the direction or away from it.

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Sep 2014 4:28 pm 
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If you look at page 140 - 5. Direction (an treo) in the New Irish Grammar by the Christian Brothers (ISBN 978 07144 1298 6 - CJ Fallon 1999) there's a good diagram that shows the directions in both ways. Following that, on page 141 there's also - 7. Points of the Compass (na hAirde) - below that there is a note that says (concerning adverbs of motion towards the speaker) - the English speak of the direction in which a person is coming. In Irish we speak of the direction from which a person is coming.


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PostPosted: Mon 22 Sep 2014 12:45 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
The problem, of course, is how you express direction changes depending on whether the person is going toward the direction or away from it.

Yes, but a sailor trying to set a westward course is going to struggle against a westerly wind, so it's not something entirely alien to the English speaker.

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PostPosted: Mon 22 Sep 2014 2:52 pm 
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Right, whether something is coming from the west or going to the west you have to know where west is in relation to north or south in order to have a reference. Really I was just having trouble confusing the basic directions (Uaidh, Iar, Oir, Eas) and trying to find an easy way to remember which is which but by now I think I have it down. Learning whether to use thiar, siar, aniar etc will be the next step. I found the following chart pretty helpful.

http://www.nualeargais.ie/gnag/adverb.htm#richt


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