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PostPosted: Mon 05 May 2014 11:14 pm 
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Hi Everyone!

I am hoping to get some assistance with a quote translation. I would like to translate
"The soul grows by subtraction, not addition."

I have been given a suggestion of "Is mó a éiríonn an t-anam le maolú ná le breis." and I would like to confirm it and get any other suggestions people may have.

Thank you for any and all help!

Warm Regards :)


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PostPosted: Tue 06 May 2014 5:03 am 
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r77777 wrote:
Hi Everyone!

I am hoping to get some assistance with a quote translation. I would like to translate
"The soul grows by subtraction, not addition."

I have been given a suggestion of "Is mó a éiríonn an t-anam le maolú ná le breis." and I would like to confirm it and get any other suggestions people may have.

Thank you for any and all help!

Warm Regards :)



Just a suggestion, there are probably much better ways to say it -


Fásann an t-anam de réir mar a thógtar as, ní mar a chuirtear leis.

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PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2014 1:25 am 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
r77777 wrote:
Hi Everyone!

I am hoping to get some assistance with a quote translation. I would like to translate
"The soul grows by subtraction, not addition."

I have been given a suggestion of "Is mó a éiríonn an t-anam le maolú ná le breis." and I would like to confirm it and get any other suggestions people may have.

Thank you for any and all help!

Warm Regards :)



Just a suggestion, there are probably much better ways to say it -


Fásann an t-anam de réir mar a thógtar as, ní mar a chuirtear leis.


I like this one. It translates pretty much directly to "The soul grows according to what is taken from it, not what is added to it."

I'm afraid the suggestion you got elsewhere doesn't make a huge amount of sense. Where did you get it?

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PostPosted: Wed 07 May 2014 3:06 pm 
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r77777 wrote:
Hi Everyone!

I am hoping to get some assistance with a quote translation. I would like to translate
"The soul grows by subtraction, not addition."

I have been given a suggestion of "Is mó a éiríonn an t-anam le maolú ná le breis." and I would like to confirm it and get any other suggestions people may have.

Thank you for any and all help!

Warm Regards :)


I'm afraid I don't agree with Redwolf about this, I think it does make sense - It's greater that the soul becomes through decrease than through increase - it's not as lyrical as Bríd's though. :yes:


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PostPosted: Sat 10 May 2014 12:47 am 
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Thank you all so very much for your feedback!!

I got the first suggestion from another translation forum. But, I only got one response on it. So I am very grateful to get all of your interpretations!


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PostPosted: Sun 11 May 2014 5:03 pm 
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r77777 wrote:
I got the first suggestion from another translation forum.

We know the place you mean. :rolleyes:


r77777 wrote:
"Is mó a éiríonn an t-anam le maolú ná le breis."


The "le breis" part in particular seems odd to me.
and "éiríonn" gives the impression that the soul is rising [from the dead] ...to me anyhow.

But wait for further suggestions.

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PostPosted: Mon 12 May 2014 4:16 pm 
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MacBoo wrote:
r77777 wrote:
Hi Everyone!

I am hoping to get some assistance with a quote translation. I would like to translate
"The soul grows by subtraction, not addition."

I have been given a suggestion of "Is mó a éiríonn an t-anam le maolú ná le breis." and I would like to confirm it and get any other suggestions people may have.

Thank you for any and all help!

Warm Regards :)


I'm afraid I don't agree with Redwolf about this, I think it does make sense - It's greater that the soul becomes through decrease than through increase - it's not as lyrical as Bríd's though. :yes:


It's awkwardly and confusingly phrased. Because of the "ná" I would understand it rather as "The soul rises (Bríd Mhór seems to think the same) more through 'maolú than through 'breis' ".


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PostPosted: Tue 13 May 2014 5:23 pm 
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That was pretty much my reading of it at first sight, but I don't consider myself that fluent, so I assumed that éiríonn was being used in the sense of becoming, getting.

Before seeing Bríd's, my own poor attempt would have been something

Ní fhásann an t-anam trí bhreis ach trí dhealú. :S

But I got it in anyway, so tear away. :)


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PostPosted: Tue 13 May 2014 7:03 pm 
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MacBoo wrote:
That was pretty much my reading of it at first sight, but I don't consider myself that fluent, so I assumed that éiríonn was being used in the sense of becoming, getting.



I think, when "éirigh" is used in that sense, it needs to have something to become ("He is becoming taller" for example: "Éirionn sé níos airde"). I'm not sure you can use it to mean "grow" in a general sense.

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