More or less always - except when the object of 'ag' + verbal noun is a noun. If the object is a pronoun, it precedes it:
Tá mé ag péinteáil an tí but Tá mé á phéinteáil



In far too many contexts to mention (generally the equivalent of the English infinitive or gerund) e.g.:

Ba mhaith liom/caithfidh tú/bhí sé deacair/ dúirt sé liom/ d'iarr mé ar an ghréasaí/tháinig sé anseo chun/tá mé i ndiaidh/ etc.,etc....an bhróg sin a dhéanamh.




Both are correct: "It's not fair to tease/be teasing me" (I don't know whether, as a borrowing from English, 'teaseáil' would be lenited - not to mention the spelling rules}.

I think it would sound strange lenited. I'm not sure really as it's not a word I've heard used as Béarlachas here. I'd say "Ná bí ag spocadh as".

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Go raibh maith agaibh! That really cleared it up. (Haha, that's what I think now. Hope I don't get confused again in a few hours' time. )

It's great what friendly and competent assistance learners get here. Thank you all so much!

So if I got you right, Errigal, the sentence originally identified by Braoin 'Níl mé gléasta sách feiliúnach le gabháil ag crúiseáil an talent i nGaillimh' is grammatical, because you have the 'ag' and the object of 'ag' + verbal noun is a noun ('an talent i nGaillimh'). And that is basically the only context where the object does not precede the verbal noun.

As for the lenition: From what I learned English words are often left unlenited. Especially d and t are hardly ever, f is never lenited. So that corresponds to Bríd's intuition about it.


That's very interesting. So that might be a Ros na Rún thing again...

Yes.

"leis an talent a chrúiseáil"; "le é a chrúiseál" (also "lena chrúiseáil")
"le gabháil/bheith ag crúiseáil an talent"; "le gabháil/bheith á chrúiseáil




Can't think of any other context off-hand. Lughaidh might come up with something though
(Obviously we're talking about direct objects here, not indirect objects with prepositions and stuff. Duh! )

Got it!

Go raibh míle maith agat, Errigal!


Yep!

Actually, if I understand correctly what you're asking, the object comes before the verbal noun + "a" when the verbal noun is functioning as an infinitive (the "to" form of a verb):

Ba mhaith liom nuachtán a cheannach: I would like to buy a newspaper (literally "I would like a newspaper to buy").

It goes after the verbal noun + ag (and is placed in the genitive) when the verbal noun is functioning as a gerund (the "-ing" form of a verb):

Tá mé ag ceannach nuachtáin: I am buying a newspaper (or, as Errigal explained, I am at the buying of a newspaper)

Is that what you were asking about?

Redwolf

Well like Redwolf, I'd say:

ag déanamh na bróige = making the shoe.
an bhróg a dhéanamh = to make the shoe. (infinitive)


Seems fine to me.

Níl sé féarailte mé a teasáil mar seo. It isn't fair to tease me like this.

Since it is an infinitive (to tease) rather than a continuous/gerund (teasing) you use mé a teasáil instead of am' teasáil like Redwolf said.

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In "I am buying a newspaper", "buying" is actually the present participle, not the gerund, but it is the gerund in "at the buying of a newspaper".



That could be misleading. "Making the shoe was difficult/I enjoyed making the shoe/before making the shoe/looking forward to making the shoe" etc., etc. - these are obviously all gerunds, not infinitives, but would of course be translated with "an bróg a dhéanamh".