Dia dhuit,
greetings to all, could I please get some opinions on this? I am planning on getting a tattoo which is titled "unconquered wolf". The usual wording on the tattoo is "bona na croin"...however I read a comment on the net and my research so far shows perhaps it should be "bona na coroin". Translation is supposed to be "collar nor crown".
Would it be better to begin with "Gan" - I think that translates as "neither"
Does anyone Know or have a personal opinion on whether the collar refers to religion (a priests collar -bona) or slavery (dog collar coilear).
Many thanks
go raibh maith agat
lis

The accents should be as follows:

Bóna ná Coróin

Bóna ná Coróin

Bóna means "collar" and refers to the church.

ná means "nor".

Coróin means "crown".

I think it can stand alone as you have it but in full it should have ní "neither" before it, not gan:

Ní Bóna ná Coróin

Ní Bóna ná Coróin

(http://ansionnachfionn.com/2013/08/23/n ... na-coroin/)

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WARNING: Intermediate speaker - await further opinions, corrections and adjustments before acting on my advice.
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

Given Irish history, it would apear to refer to the two great slave inducing power structures Ireland has seen in the past few hundred years -The Roman Church hierarchy and the British Crown

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Like the old song:

"Church and king in close embrace
The burden of the human race…"

Indeed and today, it could be said that corporations and government are the current flavor of evil.

The phrase is also nice was it has the 4 n-sounds /N'i: bo:n@ Na: koro:n'/

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Yes - some dialects still have them, and originally all dialects had them as far as I know, but for me this is:

/nʹi: bo:Nə Nɑ: kro:ŋʹ/

N=broad tense n
ŋʹ=the realisation of slender tense n in parts of Munster (N')
n'=slender lax n

(and then there is no broad lax n in Munster, as broad n is always tense)

Oh I know tho I doubt any native speaker (bar a few in Donegal) use the four consistently these days

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