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An Cionnfhaolach · **Joined:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 6:16 pm **Posts:** 1527

John O' Brien's Focalóir Gaoidhilge-Sax-Bhéarla from 1768 has "raimhdeas". I think the fada on raímhdeas is just to clarify the dialectal pronunciation of the "i" more than it being a special spelling variant and I would say both are correct within the realm of Cork Irish. Just as Conamara speakers and Kerry speakers would rather spell"im" as "ím". Great observation

! You certainly have an eye for detail!

http://books.google.ie/books?id=h99EAAA ... as&f=false

WeeFalorieMan · **Posted:** Sat 27 Apr 2013 12:20 am

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

John O' Brien's Focalóir Gaoidhilge-Sax-Bhéarla from 1768 has "raimhdeas". I think the fada on raímhdeas is just to clarify the dialectal pronunciation of the "i" more than it being a special spelling variant and I would say both are correct within the realm of Cork Irish.

Ah, that's what I was thinking. Thanks for clarifying all that. :good:

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

Just as Conamara speakers and Kerry speakers would rather spell"im" as "ím".

I know what you mean; everybody I've met from Munster (all 3 of them – ha, ha) spelt "im", "nó", and "litir": ím, nú, and leitir.

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

You certainly have an eye for detail!

Yeah, it's a mental illness of mine that comes in handy sometimes.

Thanks for the link, by the way. It's fun checking out books like that.

Aislingeach · **Posted:** Sat 27 Apr 2013 11:56 am

WeeFalorieMan wrote:

I started Cuid a cúig to-day

Yikes! I am just finishing cuid a trí (ach bhí orm mo gharraí glasraí a chur)! I'd best get to work and catch up! :nail:

An Lon Dubh · **Joined:** Fri 30 Sep 2011 10:08 pm **Posts:** 1313

Cuid a seacht is in the notes:
The notes.

WeeFalorieMan wrote:

Raimhdeas – The seana-chló version of Cuid a Cúig hasn't been posted yet

I'll update that file tomorrow, I've let it get a bit behind!

Quote:

But enough small talk! I think I found a couple o' typos:

Quote:

Bhí áthas mór uirthi agus í ag féachaint ar an obair, mar bhí a fhios aici cad é a fheabhas a thaithnfeadh an snáth leis an muíntir go mba leó é, nuair a chífidís é. – I'm pretty sure that I know exactly what this sentence means, but I can't think of a way to say it (in English) in way that comes anywhere close to how it's said in Irish. Ah well, it's more important that I understand the meaning of the sentences, instead of worrying about how they sound in English, right?

She was happy and her looking at the work (i.e. when she was looking at the work), as she knew excellence with which the thread would please the people who owned it, when they saw it.

I could add an explanation of the grammar to the notes.

WeeFalorieMan · **Posted:** Thu 02 May 2013 12:32 am

An Lon Dubh wrote:

I could add an explanation of the grammar to the notes.

The only part of the sentence that's tricky for me is"… cad é a fheabhas a thaithnfeadh an snáth leis an muíntir …

I'm almost ready to start Cuid a Sé, but I've got one last quick question:

Is fearrde sinn cúnamh a fháil.
How would you translate this sentence? I don't really understand how the a fháil part fits into the rest of the sentence. :dhera:

Bríd Mhór · **Joined:** Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm **Posts:** 2985

Sorry, I must be blind but I can't find the link to part 5,6,7 of the story. :oops:

WeeFalorieMan · **Posted:** Thu 02 May 2013 1:24 am

Bríd Mhór wrote:

Sorry, I must be blind but I can't find the link to part 5,6,7 of the story. :oops:

I've been reading this story lately from a hard copy that I made from the Cork Irish web-site.

Parts 1 through 6 (it starts from the bottom up):
http://corkirish.wordpress.com/category ... nn/page/2/

and

Parts 7 through 14 (also from the bottom up)
http://corkirish.wordpress.com/category ... n-bhfionn/

Of course, you could just print out the whole thing, where it says "Sliabh na mBan bhFionn complete" and that would make it very easy to read; it's only 11 pages, including the glossary.

Bríd Mhór · **Joined:** Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm **Posts:** 2985

WeeFalorieMan wrote:

Bríd Mhór wrote:

Sorry, I must be blind but I can't find the link to part 5,6,7 of the story. :oops:

I've been reading this story lately from a hard copy that I made from the Cork Irish web-site.

Parts 1 through 6 (it starts from the bottom up):
http://corkirish.wordpress.com/category ... nn/page/2/

and

Parts 7 through 14 (also from the bottom up)
http://corkirish.wordpress.com/category ... n-bhfionn/

Of course, you could just print out the whole thing, where it says "Sliabh na mBan bhFionn complete" and that would make it very easy to read; it's only 11 pages, including the glossary.

GRMA

Errigal · **Joined:** Fri 09 Sep 2011 2:06 pm **Posts:** 715

WeeFalorieMan wrote:

An Lon Dubh wrote:

I could add an explanation of the grammar to the notes.

The only part of the sentence that's tricky for me is"… cad é a fheabhas a thaithnfeadh an snáth leis an muíntir …

"She knew how well the thread would please them (/they'd like the thread)". A + (lenited) abstract noun = "how" + adjective.
The preceding cad é isn't in the modern standard grammar books.

Quote:

I'm almost ready to start Cuid a Sé, but I've got one last quick question:

Is fearrde sinn cúnamh a fháil.
How would you translate this sentence? I don't really understand how the a fháil part fits into the rest of the sentence. :dhera:

Literally -sort of -"We're all the better for getting help". A good translation will depend on the context, though.

WeeFalorieMan · **Posted:** Thu 02 May 2013 2:57 pm

Errigal wrote:

"She knew how well the thread would please them (/they'd like the thread)". A + (lenited) abstract noun = "how" + adjective.
The preceding cad é isn't in the modern standard grammar books.

Errigal wrote:

Literally -sort of -"We're all the better for getting help". A good translation will depend on the context, though.

Go raibh maith agat as an gcúnamh, a Errigail! :GRMA:

If all goes well, I'll be forging ahead to Cuid a Sé to-day.

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