I need the latter half of John 10:10 translated for me - "I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly."

Also these two titles (if possible):

Life & Deliverance
Faith & Forgiveness

Thanks! You guys are always great.

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Suzanne D. Williams is a native Floridian, wife, and mother with a penchant for spelling things and an Irishman somewhere way back in her background.

From An Bíobla Naofa:

Tháinig mise chun go mbeadh an bheatha acu agus go mbeadh sí acu go fial.

The emphatic "mise" is used here because Christ is comparing himself to someone else: "HE came to do thus and so...I came to...". If you're using this line as a standalone, it might work better to replace "mise" with "mé." Do wait for more input on that.

Life & Deliverance: Beatha (or Saol) & Fuascailt (Note: "Fuascailt" actually means "ransom/redemption," but it's what's typically used in the Bible for this concept)

For the second one, it depends on whether you mean "faith" as in "belief," "faith" as in "loyalty," or "faith" as in "trust"...they're different words in Irish.

Wait for more.

Redwolf

Faith as in belief.

I believe the comparison in this verse is between the first half and the second. "The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come ..." The thief steals, but I bring life, in other words. However, I don't need but the latter half of the verse.

And I meant "Deliverance" in the sense of freedom from something.

I will wait on the translation.

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Suzanne D. Williams is a native Floridian, wife, and mother with a penchant for spelling things and an Irishman somewhere way back in her background.

For John 10:10, Peadar Ua Laoghaire had: (Munster Irish)

Thánag-sa ionnus go mbeadh an bheatha acu, agus go mbeadh sí acu níos iomadúla.

(Ionnas go is quite archaic, as you would expect in the Bible)

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
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Would you consider "ionnas go" archaic I have heard that quite a lot?

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I was going to say our Braoin uses ionas go quite a lot, but I wouldn't want imply he was archaic or anything ...

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, Braoin wouldn't thank you for that!

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Aililiú! Sorry, that should be:
"ionnas go" with the subjunctive is archaic (at least in Cork Irish).
Basically the sentence is using the past subjunctive (bíodh, which is often replaced by beadh)

So rather than meaning:
I came, so that they would have life.

It's saying:
I came, so that they may have life.

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

Thanks, everyone. Any thoughts on: Faith & Forgiveness. Faith in the sense of belief. And any clarification on the other: Life & Deliverance?

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Suzanne D. Williams is a native Floridian, wife, and mother with a penchant for spelling things and an Irishman somewhere way back in her background.

[quote="scw1217"]Thanks, everyone. Any thoughts on: Faith & Forgiveness. Faith in the sense of belief. quote]

If by 'faith' you mean "belief," it would be "Creideamh & Maithiúnas"

As for the quote from John...yes, it's the thief he's comparing himself to. My point was that the emphatic form "mise" is used in the second part of that verse because of the comparison...if you're only using the second half, the emphatic probably isn't necessary, so you could go with "mé" instead.

Redwolf