Réamhfhocal game / preposition game required?

Breandán · **Posted:** Sun 19 Aug 2012 9:57 pm

Saoirse wrote:

Actually, I am now wondering if I simply misheard it and then misused it. If said fast, 'as smacht' and 'ó smacht' would not sound too different - in the middle of a conversation. God only knows what other damage I am doing to the language. :facepalm:

Actually, I just turned up a couple of examples of as smacht in Pota, so you have company.

Saoirse · **Posted:** Sun 19 Aug 2012 9:58 pm

Scooby wrote:

41. Bhain gortú ______ ach tá sé ______ bhaol anois.
42. Is ______ Corcaigh é ______ dhúchas.
43. Tá cónaí ______ Phádraig ______ tuath ______ Éirinn.

41. Bhain gortú dó ach tá sé ó bhaol anois.
42. Is as Corcaigh é ó dhúchas.
43. Tá cónaí ar Phádraig faoin tuath in Éirinn.

Quietly confident..... fingers crossed smiley le taisteáil.....

Scooby · **Joined:** Tue 06 Sep 2011 7:18 pm **Posts:** 576

Saoirse wrote:

Scooby wrote:

41. Bhain gortú ______ ach tá sé ______ bhaol anois.
42. Is ______ Corcaigh é ______ dhúchas.
43. Tá cónaí ______ Phádraig ______ tuath ______ Éirinn.

41. Bhain gortú dó ach tá sé ó bhaol anois.
42. Is as Corcaigh é ó dhúchas.
43. Tá cónaí ar Phádraig faoin tuath in Éirinn.

Quietly confident..... fingers crossed smiley le taisteáil.....

Saoirse · **Posted:** Sun 19 Aug 2012 11:18 pm

Scooby wrote:

44. Bím ______ saoire go minic ______ Spáinn, ______ Astráil agus ______ Meiriceá.
45. Chuir sé an t-ór ______ cheilt ______ gcoill ach tháinig na Gardaí ______.

44. Bím ar saoire go minic i Spáinn, san Astráil agus i Meiriceá.
45. Chuir sé an t-ór faoi cheilt i gcoill ach tháinig na Gardaí air.

Scooby · **Joined:** Tue 06 Sep 2011 7:18 pm **Posts:** 576

i Meiriceá but sa Spáinn. Bet you actually know why.

Gumbi · **Joined:** Tue 06 Sep 2011 8:09 pm **Posts:** 943

Scooby wrote:

Saoirse wrote:

Scooby wrote:

41. Bhain gortú ______ ach tá sé ______ bhaol anois.
42. Is ______ Corcaigh é ______ dhúchas.
43. Tá cónaí ______ Phádraig ______ tuath ______ Éirinn.

41. Bhain gortú dó ach tá sé ó bhaol anois.
42. Is as Corcaigh é ó dhúchas.
43. Tá cónaí ar Phádraig faoin tuath in Éirinn.

Quietly confident..... fingers crossed smiley le taisteáil.....

Would "de dhúchas" work?

Saoirse · **Posted:** Sun 19 Aug 2012 11:29 pm

Scooby wrote:

i Meiriceá but sa Spáinn. Bet you actually know why.

I wondered about 'sa' instead of 'i'. Should have thought longer! I know I should know why. :bash:

Let me sleep on it.....

Scooby · **Joined:** Tue 06 Sep 2011 7:18 pm **Posts:** 576

Gumbi wrote:

Scooby wrote:

Saoirse wrote:

Scooby wrote:

41. Bhain gortú ______ ach tá sé ______ bhaol anois.
42. Is ______ Corcaigh é ______ dhúchas.
43. Tá cónaí ______ Phádraig ______ tuath ______ Éirinn.

41. Bhain gortú dó ach tá sé ó bhaol anois.
42. Is as Corcaigh é ó dhúchas.
43. Tá cónaí ar Phádraig faoin tuath in Éirinn.

Quietly confident..... fingers crossed smiley le taisteáil.....

Would "de dhúchas" work?

At this point I am afraid to say that anything doesn't work! Using ó means He is a native Corkman. I can imagine de being used in sentences like: Tá sé de dhúchas Éireannach - He is of Irish heritage. I think!

Gumbi · **Joined:** Tue 06 Sep 2011 8:09 pm **Posts:** 943

Scooby wrote:

Gumbi wrote:

Scooby wrote:

Saoirse wrote:

Scooby wrote:

41. Bhain gortú ______ ach tá sé ______ bhaol anois.
42. Is ______ Corcaigh é ______ dhúchas.
43. Tá cónaí ______ Phádraig ______ tuath ______ Éirinn.

41. Bhain gortú dó ach tá sé ó bhaol anois.
42. Is as Corcaigh é ó dhúchas.
43. Tá cónaí ar Phádraig faoin tuath in Éirinn.

Quietly confident..... fingers crossed smiley le taisteáil.....

Would "de dhúchas" work?

At this point I am afraid to say that anything doesn't work! Using ó means He is a native Corkman. I can imagine de being used in sentences like: Tá sé de dhúchas Éireannach - He is of Irish heritage. I think!

My feelings too!

Saoirse · **Posted:** Mon 20 Aug 2012 2:08 pm

Scooby wrote:

i Meiriceá but sa Spáinn. Bet you actually know why.

I think it is something to do with putting 'sa' with countries that have 'An' in their name m.s. An Spáinn - sa Spáinn, An Fhrainc - sa Fhrainc, but putting 'i' with countries that don't have 'An' m.s. i Meiriceá, i gCeanada. Obviously when there are vowels, 'sa' becomes 'san' and 'i' becomes 'in'.

That is a mistake I should not have made. :rolleyes:

I wonder if I went back to school now, would I listen more??? :winkgrin:

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