I just need help translating “For king and people”. What I have is Do rí agus do dhaoine. but im not sure if this is right.

thanks

I would think something like "An Rí agus do mhuintir". That's more of the idea of I think what you're looking for. "The King and His Community/People".

De Bhaldraithe has an rí agus a ghéillsinigh for "the king and his people". Géillsineach is "a subject" as in "his loyal subjects" from géillsine "subjection, allegiance" ultimately from the verb géill "to yield, submit".

To make "For king and people", harpo is correct in repeating the preposition, but I think we really need the article here as it is a specific king, i.e., "for the king" not "for a king":

Don rí agus dá ghéillsinigh "For king and people" literally "for the king and for his people".

@faberm - I don't think muintir is wrong (it is better than daoine "people (in general)"), but since there is a set phrase, I just thought we should work with that. You would still need the preposition twice: Don rí agus dá mhuintir, but it sounds more like his family (although "cyning" in Old English meant "kinsman".)

Await further input ...

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

Is dona a Conamara form? I’d say dá …

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Not a native speaker.

Always wait for at least three people to agree on a translation, especially if it’s for something permanent.

My translations are usually GU (Ulster Irish), unless CO (Standard Orthography) is requested.

Gave you got a smiley for a "brain fart"? According to FGB, the form dona does exist, but I meant dá. Will fix it above.

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

"Dona" is used in Ulster at least. Don't they say "dhá" in Connachta?

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Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne

Yes, it's dhá in Connacht.

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

I'm just wondering would "ar son" be suitable ?

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That would also work, provided you used the genitive. (Ar aghaidh leat, mar sin! )

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

Let me see now ... Ar son na Rí agus a ghéillsinigh

I say that because if there's a genitive version of Rí I can't remember it. The same as the plural perhaps (ríthe) ?

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