Ar snathaid eile, scríobh Bríd:
Tuigim cad atá i gceist. When exactly should one use 'ucht'? I know it sometimes comes up in prayers: '.... as ucht mo chairde, molaim Thú....' I have often seen and heard it, but I never use it as I should have asked here on ILF a long time ago.....

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You can also use it when you are extending thanks or gratitude to someone:

"Go raibh maith agat a Shaoirse as ucht do chabhrach"

"ucht" is always followed by the ginideach- "as ucht do chabhrach"; "as ucht t' /d' oibre"

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In the Collins Dictionary, it's given to mean - for the sake of or on account of (and - chest, breast, bosom as well as lap, which must be quite confusing)
- as ucht + genitive ; as ucht Dé - for God's sake
In Gluais Beo (Pota Focal) there are quite a few examples of its usage meaning - for or on behalf.

In the Collins Dictionary, it's given to mean - for the sake of or on account of (and - chest, breast, bosom as well as lap, which must be quite confusing)
- as ucht + genitive ; as ucht Dé - for God's sake
In Gluais Beo (Pota Focal) there are quite a few examples of its usage meaning - for or on behalf.

Belated thanks!

'Míle buíochas as ucht na tacaíochta......'

Is that the same - or better than - 'Míle buíochas as an dtacaíocht.......'

In other words, does using 'ucht' add fluency or is it just an alternative way to say it or is it wrong not to have it in certain circumstances?

(It feels a little bit like the whole 'cuid' thing.......)

[Edited to fix 'na'. Grma, An Cionnfhaolach]

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Just a small mistake: "na tacaíochta", nearly all "eacht" and "aíocht (formerly aidheacht/ aigheacht)" endings are feminine.

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"as ucht bhur dtacaíochta"

Its just another way of saying it, I would think. But its a nicer way in my opinion.

I don't see anything wrong with saying: "as ucht bhur gcuid tacaíochta either"

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There is no eclipsis of t or d after as an outside Munster, is there? (But no wonder An Cionnfhaolach didn't notice anything wrong with it. )

Míle buíochas as an tacaíocht (a thug tú dom).

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My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

No of course not!



, there should be an "urú" on the "t"! other than that

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What? a dtug tú dom?

As I mentioned, there is no d in as an tacaíocht outside Munster.

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

Just for information (assuming I've read it right), the new CO gives the 'leagan seanbhunaithe' which omits eclipsis before d and t in the type of example above. But then, on the following pages, it gives other options - including eclipsis of d and t. I think the idea is to broaden what is acceptable as long as there is consistency in any given piece of writing.