Has anyone else noticed the changes on Focal.ie regarding the Tuiseal Ginideach uatha, iolra etc... according to the new CO? They have removed some Irish words and replaced them with utter Béarlachas as well.

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Examples?

Sorry Gumbi, I came across some changes recently but I couldn't remember what they were:

There was one that I had an inkling of:

Cú- hound or greyhound

The Tuiseal Ginideach of "cú" should be "con" instead "cú" is given. The Tuiseal Ginideach iolra should also be "con" also instead, cúnna is given? and the dative is "coin". Unless this is just a Munster thing, I doubt it as this is the way it is in all of the older sources I have come across.

Mol Thuaidh- North Pole

Focal.ie gives Pol Thuaidh

There's others I just can't think of them right now.

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There's a new Caighdeán Oifigeamhail?

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If I remember well, cú, cú, cúnna, cúnna are the CO forms. (I don't know if there are native speakers who use them somewhere, or if they are an invention of the creators of the CO)
Cú, con, coin etc are traditional.

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Dinneen says cú is indeclinable in the singular in Connacht and Ulster, but he doesn't say anything about a plural cúnna, indeclinable or otherwise.

Do native speakers use this word at all in ordinary conversation? Wouldn't they just say madadh, madra, or gadhar?

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have to ask Bríd.
Personally I never heard and seldom read cú in Irish. People rather talk about madaidh etc, because people have dogs, not hounds, most of the time
In mythology, they use cú, cf Cú Chulainn (genitive Con Culainn..., I think)

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Hmmm. Pol thuaidh is really weird. I've always said an Mol Thuaidh. That reeks of "let's make it slightly more like English for no apparent reason".

I use it when referring to greyhounds, but that's about it.

I agree the Ginideach of "cú" should be "con"
Like in Bord na gCon - actually that is probably the only context I've heard it.

Cú - is a particular type of dog - a sighthound - that can be a greyhound or an Irish wolfhound or deerhound etc.

Cú Chulainn - the hound of Culainn - probably an IrishWolfhound.

In Conamara "gadhar" and "mada" discribes all dogs hounds included.

In Welsh afaik they call all dogs "ci". Which sounds like it's related to "cú". But I don't know enough Welsh to know if they differienciate between dogs.


Pol Thuaidh - I've never heard that before

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