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PostPosted: Sun 17 Jun 2012 7:57 pm 
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I have always used 'tá brón orm' to mean 'I am sorry' as in remorseful about something.
I have always used 'tá mé brónach' to mean 'I am sad' as in not happy.

I have seen 'tá brón orm' in contexts meaning sadness (not remorse). I hope that makes sense! How do others use 'tá brón orm'?

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Jun 2012 9:01 pm 
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I heard that it's better to say "tá mé buartha" to say "I'm sorry" while "tá brón orm" rather means "I am sad" (just like "tá mé brónach").

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PostPosted: Sun 17 Jun 2012 9:06 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
I heard that it's better to say "tá mé buartha" to say "I'm sorry" while "tá brón orm" rather means "I am sad" (just like "tá mé brónach").
Meanwhile, I use 'tá mé buartha' to mean 'I am worried/anxious' about something...... And I'm feeling a bit 'buartha' about feeling 'brónach' at the moment! :/

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Tá aiféal orm is another way to say "I'm sorry" in Connemara.

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I use 'tá mé buartha' to mean 'I am worried/anxious' about something


when you apologize, you are worried about something... so "tá mé buartha" is ok

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun 2012 9:55 am 
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Tá cathú orm.
Tá aiféala orm.


Tá brón orm is used too, regardless of whether it was originally correct. Even in the context: '(Tá) brón orm cur isteach ort...'


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tá mé buartha - is what is used in the North.

We wouldn't say that in Conamara.


brón - is sadness, rather than regret, which is what you mean when you say you are sorry.
But "tá brón orm" is established as "I'm sorry" now.
I suppose it comes from the English. As "sorry" comes from the word "sorrow" AFAIK.
But it could be older than that, I really don't know.

I like "Tá aiféal orm" like Breandán said.
You regret standing on someone's foot, but it doesn't make you sad. :D

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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun 2012 3:15 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
You regret standing on someone's foot, but it doesn't make you sad.
And sometimes the regret may be that you didn't stamp just a little bit harder when you had the opportunity! :twisted:

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I remember this coming up at the other place a couple of times. I was told in no uncertain terms by certain people from north of the border that if I said - tá brón orm - I should be weeping and in tears and buartha was the word to use. Apparently this has become the set phrase for I'm sorry, as it's in all the phrase books srl. What would they have said in Kerry before the Béarlachas set in and did Peig ever say sorry ?
And I have a personal complaint to make - in the l'Irlandais de Poche (Assimil) le Ciarán Mac Guill where I first started to learn Irish, it's - tá bron orm - so I was lead astray right from the beginning and I've been trying to unlearn it ever since.


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As if we don't all have enough to worry about; now we have to worry about whether we are sad or regretful or if we regret what we are sad about or whether the tears are real or how realily they flow. In fact, I can feel myself welling up as I type this.... :cry: It turns out Italy has just scored..... :cry:

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