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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2013 7:57 am 
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Nordic wrote:
Breandán wrote:
Redwolf wrote:
Tríom féin is ar ais arís

Or perhaps even just Tríom féin is ar ais ?


Thank you for your assistance, Redwolf. What changes if you leave out the "arís"? Does the "again" fall away?

Would you also be so kind to give me a rough phonetic pronunciation for the phrase? It was hard enough teaching Cape Tonians not to say "slain-tay" for Sláinte (which is also a newish Irish restaurant in town) ... I cannot imagine what it would sound like if we try and pronounce the phrase above. :toast:

Yes, arís is "again".

.:>:.Tríom féin is ar ais (arís)
TREE-um HEYN iss erh_ASH (ih-RHEESH)
/t´r´i:əm he:n´ əs er´ æ:s´ (ə'r´i:s´)/

The slender r, which I have written as "rh" in the phonics, is lightly flapped like Scottish English r but so light that it almost buzzes.

The long e(i) in féin is a pure vowel not a diphthong. The f is pronounced like an h (in Ulster and Connacht, at least).

Slender s's are sh sounds.

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Feb 2013 8:38 am 
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Breandán wrote:
Nordic wrote:
Breandán wrote:
Redwolf wrote:
Tríom féin is ar ais arís

Or perhaps even just Tríom féin is ar ais ?


Thank you for your assistance, Redwolf. What changes if you leave out the "arís"? Does the "again" fall away?

Would you also be so kind to give me a rough phonetic pronunciation for the phrase? It was hard enough teaching Cape Tonians not to say "slain-tay" for Sláinte (which is also a newish Irish restaurant in town) ... I cannot imagine what it would sound like if we try and pronounce the phrase above. :toast:

Yes, arís is "again".

.:>:.Tríom féin is ar ais (arís)
TREE-um HEYN iss erh_ASH (ih-RHEESH)
/t´r´i:əm he:n´ əs er´ æ:s´ (ə'r´i:s´)/

The slender r, which I have written as "rh" in the phonics, is lightly flapped like Scottish English r but so light that it almost buzzes.

The long e(i) in féin is a pure vowel not a diphthong. The f is pronounced like an h (in Ulster and Connacht, at least).

Slender s's are sh sounds.


Thank you very much for the explanation, Breandán!

I have signed myself up at Bitesize Irish ... determined to come to grips with the language of my ancestors. Luckily for me, I am an Afrikaans first language speaker too (Mum not being English like my dad) and the language contains a lot of gutteral sounds that are similar to those in Gaeilge, so I might just :nail: it.


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That sounds like a beautiful idea for a pub logo! The infinity theme fits perfectly, hope someone can help with the Irish translation to make it even more authentic.


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It's wonderful to see people sharing knowledge about language and culture, especially when the discussions extend beyond grammar to genuine history. I once studied Irish for a cultural exchange project and was struck by how the language reflects the people's mindset. Then I came across International Development Services reviews , where people shared stories of real-life initiatives in international cooperation. These stories reminded me that preserving languages ​​and cultures is also a contribution to development, albeit on a spiritual level.


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