msv133 wrote:
The beginning of Joel, chapter 1 verse 4, from PUL's Cork Irish Bible:
"Tá are you fhág an luschnuimh ite ag an lócast"
Translation:
That which the palmerworm has left, the locust has eaten
Here, its is the verbal adjective of the verb "to eat." Can somebody explain to me why the verbal adjective form is correct here?? In general, I'm struggling with identifying when to use verbal adjective and verbal noun form of verbs... Does English even have these forms? Irish verbs are so confusing!!
You have a few errors in what you have written above. The verse begins:
Tá ar fhág an luschnuimh ite ag an lócast.
The verbal adjective is appropriate here as the English translation would use the past participle of the verb "to eat", i.e. "eaten". The structure itself, "[substantive verb] [something] [verbal adjective]", is very common in Irish. In this case "[
tá] [
ar fhág an luschnuimh] [
ite]" is more complex than usual, because the [something] is actually a separate clause introduced by the relative particle,
ar. More typical examples would be like "[tá] [sé] [déanta] agam", "I have it done".
Broadly speaking you can expect the verbal adjective in Irish where you would have the past participle in English, and the verbal noun where you would have the present participle in English. i.e.
ag ithe = "eating", but
ite ag "eaten by".
Yes, English has both verbal nouns and verbal adjectives, although they are significantly less common in English than in Irish, as they do not fulfil the same function in English. Because they are used in place of present and past participles in Irish, every verb needs both a verbal noun and verbal adjective, whereas in English, they are coined only where they serve some other function. For example, "asking" is generally a present participle of the verb "to ask", however, it can be use as a gerund (i.e. a verbal noun) in phrases like "do you mind my asking". Similarly, any adjective which is based on a verb, is a verbal adjective, hence, the adjectives in examples like "a
broken promise" and "a
running tap" are verbal.