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PostPosted: Sat 08 Feb 2025 8:24 pm 
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canta 'chunk'
lem' chuimhne 'as I remember'
slog 'gulp'
Cad tá ort? 'what's wrong?'

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Feb 2025 9:20 pm 
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Séamus O'Neill wrote:
djwebb2021 wrote:
chun scéal gearra a dhéanamh: not treated as a fourth declension noun (as the adj is not lenited). Just given in the nominative, as a whole phrase is governed by chun.


Do you know why gearr is in the plural?

I don't think it's in the plural. Gearra is a variant of geárr, just as fearra is of feárr.


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PostPosted: Sat 08 Feb 2025 9:21 pm 
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Séamus O'Neill wrote:
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canta 'chunk'
lem' chuimhne 'as I remember'
slog 'gulp'
Cad tá ort? 'what's wrong?'

cannta, pronounced /kauntə/


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PostPosted: Mon 10 Feb 2025 11:51 pm 
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djwebb2021 wrote:
Séamus O'Neill wrote:
djwebb2021 wrote:
chun scéal gearra a dhéanamh: not treated as a fourth declension noun (as the adj is not lenited). Just given in the nominative, as a whole phrase is governed by chun.


Do you know why gearr is in the plural?

I don't think it's in the plural. Gearra is a variant of geárr, just as fearra is of feárr.


That makes sense. Thank you

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PostPosted: Tue 11 Feb 2025 12:10 am 
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ag caitheamh toitín 'smoking a cigarette'
ná cloisim a thuilleadh mar gheall air 'don't let me hear any more about it'
Ná ní baol duit é sin what does this ná ní mean? I have seen it before as in Dhera ní ná é
ní raibh fhios faic againn apparently an alternative construction to ní raibh a fhios againn faic, would this work with other words other that faic as well? E.g. tá a fhios Máire agam, and if so should it be in the genitive?

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You can have a noun or noun phrase after fhios: Leanan tú an rud a thugan pléisiúr duit féin bíodh go bhfuil fhios agat é bheith coisgithe ag Dia ort

But in the example you give with faic, I see faic as adverbial in meaning there.


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Feb 2025 8:39 am 
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Séamus O'Neill wrote:
Ná ní baol duit é sin what does this ná ní mean?


ná = nor, neither
It probably follows another negative sentence:
"Ní … ná ní …" is stronger than "Ní … agus ní …"


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PostPosted: Tue 11 Feb 2025 10:13 pm 
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djwebb2021 wrote:
You can have a noun or noun phrase after fhios: Leanan tú an rud a thugan pléisiúr duit féin bíodh go bhfuil fhios agat é bheith coisgithe ag Dia ort

But in the example you give with faic, I see faic as adverbial in meaning there.


Thank you

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Labhrás wrote:
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Ná ní baol duit é sin what does this ná ní mean?


ná = nor, neither
It probably follows another negative sentence:
"Ní … ná ní …" is stronger than "Ní … agus ní …"


In the sentence that I provided, Ná ní came at the beginning, with no additional negative preceding it:

Quote:
'Cad atá ort?' arsa é liomsa. 'Tá fear mór dubh istigh sa toilet' arsa mise is stad ionam. 'Ná ní baol duit é sin.

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bhí mo mháthair á shíor-rá linn 'my mother was forever telling us'
bhí sé ar a toil i dtaobh an uisce de 'it was to her liking in regards to the water' compound prepositions such as i dtaobh and mar gheall ar carry a more specific meaning than the general English 'about', which is often translated as faoi ( in Munster)
cúig troithe déag sa doimhneas, deich dtroithe ar fhaid agus sé nó seacht ar leithead 'fifteen feet deep, ten feet long, and six or seven feet wide'
dein san áit a dheinis inné é 'do it in the place that you did yesterday'
níbh = ní raibh
isteach clós, another example of generalisation

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