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PostPosted: Sat 08 Apr 2023 4:58 pm 
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1. Are there any language learning materials geared toward the beginner that have been produced by speakers from Corca Dhuibhne?

2. Are there any significant differences between how Irish is spoken in Corca Dhuibhne and the Irish in Múscraí?

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There is a Polish-language textbook of Corca Dhuibhne Irish - available at https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDe ... 1-_-title3

Audio files of the author reading the passages can be found online.

The vocabulary is given with IPA transcription. All the explanations are in Polish, but you can use the texts, the vocabulary and the example sentences just fine. Any intelligent person can use it just fine without speaking Polish.

The differences between Corca Dhuibhne and Muskerry Irish are quite minor.


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PostPosted: Sat 08 Apr 2023 6:06 pm 
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djwebb2021 wrote:
There is a Polish-language textbook of Corca Dhuibhne Irish...


A Polish language textbook on Irish. I'll be darned. At first, I thought you were joking.

djwebb2021 wrote:
...The vocabulary is given with IPA transcription...


I love that!

Thank you for your help!!!

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You can always post questions here. If you go chapter by chapter through that book, I'll give you explanations here. Someone posted the link to the audio files read by Aidan Doyle on this site (on the ILF site) a while ago.


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PostPosted: Sat 08 Apr 2023 6:54 pm 
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djwebb2021 wrote:
You can always post questions here. If you go chapter by chapter through that book, I'll give you explanations here...


I appreciate that! Thank you. :)

A branch of my family came from the Loop Head Peninsula area (long ago) so I'm pondering which dialect I'm going to steer toward (Munster or Connemara) as I choose a learning program to start my study with.

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Apr 2023 9:29 pm 
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Brús Liam wrote:
djwebb2021 wrote:
You can always post questions here. If you go chapter by chapter through that book, I'll give you explanations here...


I appreciate that! Thank you. :)

A branch of my family came from the Loop Head Peninsula area (long ago) so I'm pondering which dialect I'm going to steer toward (Munster or Connemara) as I choose a learning program to start my study with.


Well Connemara Irish has more speakers and is closer to Standardised Irish. The best book is Learning Irish with CDs by Mícheál Ó Siadhail. Bríd Mhór on this site (she hasn't visited for a few months, but will probably be back) is a native speaker of Connemara Irish. (It's Conamara in Irish.)


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PostPosted: Sat 08 Apr 2023 10:24 pm 
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djwebb2021 wrote:
Well Connemara Irish has more speakers and is closer to Standardised Irish. The best book is Learning Irish with CDs by Mícheál Ó Siadhail. Bríd Mhór on this site (she hasn't visited for a few months, but will probably be back) is a native speaker of Connemara Irish. (It's Conamara in Irish.)


Yeah, I'm leaning toward Conamara Irish as there seems to be more learning materials available in that dialect. I think my daughter has the book by Mícheál Ó Siadhail. I have the first two Buntús Cainte books and CDs (bought long ago) --I think I once read the speakers were using a Conamara dialect.

Thank you, again, for all of your suggestions! They are very helpful.

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Brús Liam wrote:
djwebb2021 wrote:
Well Connemara Irish has more speakers and is closer to Standardised Irish. The best book is Learning Irish with CDs by Mícheál Ó Siadhail. Bríd Mhór on this site (she hasn't visited for a few months, but will probably be back) is a native speaker of Connemara Irish. (It's Conamara in Irish.)


Yeah, I'm leaning toward Conamara Irish as there seems to be more learning materials available in that dialect. I think my daughter has the book by Mícheál Ó Siadhail. I have the first two Buntús Cainte books and CDs (bought long ago) --I think I once read the speakers were using a Conamara dialect.

Thank you, again, for all of your suggestions! They are very helpful.

No, Buntús Cainte is in Standardised Irish, which is spoken in no Gaeltacht village. The dialogues there are read out in a Conamara accent, but the grammar is not Conamara dialect.


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PostPosted: Sat 08 Apr 2023 10:59 pm 
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Also Bríd Mhór, the native speaker of Conamara Irish who is sometimes on this forum, has read many words in her dialect for Forvo.com Eg the phrase "táim sa teach anois" (I'm in the house now) is read by her at https://forvo.com/word/t%C3%A1im_sa_teach_anois/ If you see Bríd Eilís next to any Irish words on forvo.com you can trust the pronunciations as a result.

Her pronunciations on that site number more than 12,000: https://forvo.com/user/BridEilis/


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PostPosted: Sun 09 Apr 2023 12:25 am 
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djwebb2021 wrote:
No, Buntús Cainte is in Standardised Irish, which is spoken in no Gaeltacht village. The dialogues there are read out in a Conamara accent, but the grammar is not Conamara dialect.

Ah yes, that was gist of what I read. Thanks for clarifying that.

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