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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jan 2014 9:38 pm 
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Hello.
I'm looking to have this tribute to my father translated into Gaelic for a tattoo. "He is his Father's son." As in, I resemble my Father, and become more like the person he is, as I grow older. I don't know much about the language, or the differences in dialect. I've chosen it as a tribute to my Father's heritage, as well. Thank you for whatever help is offered.
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PostPosted: Sat 18 Jan 2014 10:45 pm 
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clong35 wrote:
Hello.
I'm looking to have this tribute to my father translated into Gaelic for a tattoo. "He is his Father's son." As in, I resemble my Father, and become more like the person he is, as I grow older. I don't know much about the language, or the differences in dialect. I've chosen it as a tribute to my Father's heritage, as well. Thank you for whatever help is offered.
Corey


We get this one occasionally, and it seems to me that it's not a terribly natural idiom in Irish, but I can't remember what has been said about it. I'm going to give you a very literal translation here, but please wait for more input (and be open to expressing this in a different way) before doing anything permanent.

Is mac a athar é

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jan 2014 3:11 pm 
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"He is his father's son"
Redwolf wrote:

We get this one occasionally, and it seems to me that it's not a terribly natural idiom in Irish, but I can't remember what has been said about it. I'm going to give you a very literal translation here, but please wait for more input (and be open to expressing this in a different way) before doing anything permanent.

Is mac a athar é

Redwolf


It should be Is é mac a athar é. The extra é is necessary. It may be literal, but I think it's okay. Of course there are other ways of translating the "like father, like son" thing.


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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jan 2014 3:59 pm 
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Errigal wrote:
"He is his father's son"
Redwolf wrote:

We get this one occasionally, and it seems to me that it's not a terribly natural idiom in Irish, but I can't remember what has been said about it. I'm going to give you a very literal translation here, but please wait for more input (and be open to expressing this in a different way) before doing anything permanent.

Is mac a athar é

Redwolf


It should be Is é mac a athar é. The extra é is necessary. It may be literal, but I think it's okay. Of course there are other ways of translating the "like father, like son" thing.

This is because mac a athar is a "definite" noun, due to a, and a pronoun is required between the copula and a definite noun, is that correct?


Some proverbs relating to heredity:

Briseann an dúchas trí shúile an chait.
"Heredity breaks out in the eyes of the cat."

Cad é a dhéanfadh mac an chait ach luch a mharú ?
"Like father like son" literally "what would the son of a cat do but kill a mouse?"


Dinneen also has an interesting turn of phrase:

Is athairiúil an mac é. "He is like his father"

which FGB gives as:

Is aithriúil an mac é. "Like father like son."

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Jan 2014 11:05 pm 
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Wow! Those are all good! Any suggestions on old spelling , lettering and the like?


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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jan 2014 11:49 am 
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Breandán wrote:
Errigal wrote:
"He is his father's son"
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Is mac a athar é


It should be Is é mac a athar é. The extra é is necessary. It may be literal, but I think it's okay. Of course there are other ways of translating the "like father, like son" thing.

This is because mac a athar is a "definite" noun, due to a, and a pronoun is required between the copula and a definite noun, is that correct?


Correct (mar is maith is eol duit, a Bhreandáin ;) - ach is maith liom an cur chuige sin).
Which reminds me I have a similar question of my own. I'll put it on a new thread.


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PostPosted: Thu 30 Jan 2014 3:22 pm 
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clong35 wrote:
Hello.
I'm looking to have this tribute to my father translated into Gaelic for a tattoo. "He is his Father's son." As in, I resemble my Father, and become more like the person he is, as I grow older. I don't know much about the language, or the differences in dialect. I've chosen it as a tribute to my Father's heritage, as well. Thank you for whatever help is offered.
Corey


Another usage you could consider:

Tá sé ar lorg a athar.

or, shorter for tattoo...

Ar lorg a athar
(speaking of his father...)

Ar lorg m'athar
(speaking of my father...)

Ar lorg an athar
(...after the father...)

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