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PostPosted: Tue 31 Dec 2013 12:30 am 
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Hi!

I have extracted a list of sentences from focloir.ie, with their translation, in order to learn Gaelic again. Basically, I'm going to record myself saying the sentences I don't know. Later, I'll play them back until I've learned them. I'm wondering though if the Irish sentences are proper Irish sentences that would be used by a native speaker and if the translations to English are good or a half-hearted effort.

Here are some of the sentences:

tig leis é a chaitheamh siar he can really put it away
táim ag dul abhaile chun mo charr a fháil I'm going home to pick up my car
táimid craiceáilte agus a bheith ag cur suas leis we must be crazy to put up with it
tá sé ag dul i bhfeabhas ar fad it's getting better and better
chuala sé an scéal sin go mion minic he heard that story many a time
bhí mé i gcónaí go maith ag caitheamh I was always good at throwing
bhuail siad síos chuig mo theach ar ball they just called down to my house
sin an rud a chuir a saol bunoscionn that's what turned her world upside down
déanann siad iad féin a chosaint ó nádúr their instinct is to fight back
taispeánann sé sin nach mbíonn sé riamh ródhéanach it just goes to show you, it's never too late
bhuail sé linn i Londain he fell in with us in London
tiocfaidh sé ar an bpost it'll come through the post
thug sé mise ina chuideachta he took me along with him
beidh mé ansin in am I'll be there in time
ní maith atá ina gceann they're up to no good
is fear an-láidir é he's a very strong man
is fear an-deas é he's a very nice man
rinne an comhluadar an tsaoire the company really made the holiday
chuaigh mé trí na cáipéisí I searched through the documents
bheith sa leabhar ag duine to be on sb's books
chaith sé 6 bliana i bpríosún he served 6 years in jail
chas sí air sa tsráid she ran across him in the street
tiocfaidh sé leis an bpost it'll come through the post
beidh mé chugat ar ball I'll be with you directly
tá do theach ar díol your house is for sale
seo isteach le cailín beag in walked a little girl


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PostPosted: Tue 31 Dec 2013 12:39 am 
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barra79 wrote:
Hi!

I have extracted a list of sentences from focloir.ie, with their translation, in order to learn Gaelic again. Basically, I'm going to record myself saying the sentences I don't know. Later, I'll play them back until I've learned them. I'm wondering though if the Irish sentences are proper Irish sentences that would be used by a native speaker and if the translations to English are good or a half-hearted effort.

Here are some of the sentences:

tig leis é a chaitheamh siar he can really put it away
táim ag dul abhaile chun mo charr a fháil I'm going home to pick up my car
táimid craiceáilte agus a bheith ag cur suas leis we must be crazy to put up with it
tá sé ag dul i bhfeabhas ar fad it's getting better and better
chuala sé an scéal sin go mion minic he heard that story many a time
bhí mé i gcónaí go maith ag caitheamh I was always good at throwing
bhuail siad síos chuig mo theach ar ball they just called down to my house
sin an rud a chuir a saol bunoscionn that's what turned her world upside down
déanann siad iad féin a chosaint ó nádúr their instinct is to fight back
taispeánann sé sin nach mbíonn sé riamh ródhéanach it just goes to show you, it's never too late
bhuail sé linn i Londain he fell in with us in London
tiocfaidh sé ar an bpost it'll come through the post
thug sé mise ina chuideachta he took me along with him
beidh mé ansin in am I'll be there in time
ní maith atá ina gceann they're up to no good
is fear an-láidir é he's a very strong man
is fear an-deas é he's a very nice man
rinne an comhluadar an tsaoire the company really made the holiday
chuaigh mé trí na cáipéisí I searched through the documents
bheith sa leabhar ag duine to be on sb's books
chaith sé 6 bliana i bpríosún he served 6 years in jail
chas sí air sa tsráid she ran across him in the street
tiocfaidh sé leis an bpost it'll come through the post
beidh mé chugat ar ball I'll be with you directly
tá do theach ar díol your house is for sale
seo isteach le cailín beag in walked a little girl


I did not read the English at all - and the Irish sounds/looks fine to me.
The only small thing I would see, and I think Bríd might agree here, is the word 'déanach'
deireanach is very commonly used here and it is the word I heard most often.

Thus:
taispeánann sé sin nach mbíonn sé riamh ródheireanach

Are you OK with the pronunciations, or do you want them recorded so you can play them back?

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PostPosted: Tue 31 Dec 2013 12:44 am 
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barra79 wrote:
déanann siad iad féin a chosaint ó nádúr their instinct is to fight back
I am wondering if to defend/protect is the same as to fight back?

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PostPosted: Tue 31 Dec 2013 1:03 am 
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Here's the story. I have 15,000 such sentences - each with their translation :)

I'm working on a way to "rank" the sentences so that the sentences containing more important words and phrases are sorted to the top. The idea then would be to start at the top and work down the list.

I'm currently using:

http://www.forvo.com/languages/ga/

to help with the pronunciations.

If someone was interested in recording sentences for me I would be really grateful. I could also help with any necessary tools to make the recording process go as quickly as possible. I really think its better to learn a langauge using your ears rather than with your eyes.

If you would like to see the full list of sentences, please send me your email and I can share it with you.

I'd also be very happy to put as much effort as I possibly can to arrive at a free tool to help people learn Irish.


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PostPosted: Tue 31 Dec 2013 1:20 am 
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barra79 wrote:
Here's the story. I have 15,000 such sentences - each with their translation :)

I'm working on a way to "rank" the sentences so that the sentences containing more important words and phrases are sorted to the top. The idea then would be to start at the top and work down the list.

I'm currently using:

http://www.forvo.com/languages/ga/

to help with the pronunciations.

If someone was interested in recording sentences for me I would be really grateful. I could also help with any necessary tools to make the recording process go as quickly as possible. I really think its better to learn a langauge using your ears rather than with your eyes.

If you would like to see the full list of sentences, please send me your email and I can share it with you.

I'd also be very happy to put as much effort as I possibly can to arrive at a free tool to help people learn Irish.


Forvo is the place to do it all right. There are contributors to Forvo on this forum.

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PostPosted: Tue 31 Dec 2013 1:49 am 
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Braoin wrote:
barra79 wrote:
Hi!

I have extracted a list of sentences from focloir.ie, with their translation, in order to learn Gaelic again. Basically, I'm going to record myself saying the sentences I don't know. Later, I'll play them back until I've learned them. I'm wondering though if the Irish sentences are proper Irish sentences that would be used by a native speaker and if the translations to English are good or a half-hearted effort.

Here are some of the sentences:

tig leis é a chaitheamh siar he can really put it away
táim ag dul abhaile chun mo charr a fháil I'm going home to pick up my car
táimid craiceáilte agus a bheith ag cur suas leis we must be crazy to put up with it
tá sé ag dul i bhfeabhas ar fad it's getting better and better
chuala sé an scéal sin go mion minic he heard that story many a time
bhí mé i gcónaí go maith ag caitheamh I was always good at throwing
bhuail siad síos chuig mo theach ar ball they just called down to my house
sin an rud a chuir a saol bunoscionn that's what turned her world upside down
déanann siad iad féin a chosaint ó nádúr their instinct is to fight back
taispeánann sé sin nach mbíonn sé riamh ródhéanach it just goes to show you, it's never too late
bhuail sé linn i Londain he fell in with us in London
tiocfaidh sé ar an bpost it'll come through the post
thug sé mise ina chuideachta he took me along with him
beidh mé ansin in am I'll be there in time
ní maith atá ina gceann they're up to no good
is fear an-láidir é he's a very strong man
is fear an-deas é he's a very nice man
rinne an comhluadar an tsaoire the company really made the holiday
chuaigh mé trí na cáipéisí I searched through the documents
bheith sa leabhar ag duine to be on sb's books
chaith sé 6 bliana i bpríosún he served 6 years in jail
chas sí air sa tsráid she ran across him in the street
tiocfaidh sé leis an bpost it'll come through the post
beidh mé chugat ar ball I'll be with you directly
tá do theach ar díol your house is for sale
seo isteach le cailín beag in walked a little girl


I did not read the English at all - and the Irish sounds/looks fine to me.
The only small thing I would see, and I think Bríd might agree here, is the word 'déanach'
deireanach is very commonly used here and it is the word I heard most often.

Thus:
taispeánann sé sin nach mbíonn sé riamh ródheireanach

Are you OK with the pronunciations, or do you want them recorded so you can play them back?


I think that in Munster (Tipperary and the Déise areas) "déanach" is used for "late" and "deireanach" for "last"


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Does Forvo allow you to record entire sentences?

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Talking of sentences and forvo... have you guys ever looked at http://www.tatoeba.org? Multilingual translation by sentence. Quite cool, but limited at present.

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