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PostPosted: Tue 19 Nov 2013 4:21 pm 
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I am certain I will leave out something so I apologize in advance. I am working on a tattoo (my first) and have two quotes I want to incorporate. My daughters names will be included as well. My Grandfather is from a small town in Northern Ireland and used to speak some dialect of Gaelic, I was very young so I don't remember much about it except loving hearing him speak it when he did. I would like to do the quotes, if possible, in an appropriate dialect of Gaelic if there is one for that area. The quotes are:

"For those I love I will sacrifice"

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"Love may be delayed but not destroyed"

I am completely open to variations of the wording as long as the message is captured. Thank you in advance for the assistance, it is greatly appreciated.


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Nov 2013 3:54 pm 
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Taking a stab at the first one, but I'm rusty, so definitely wait for more input!

"Ar son na daoine a bhfuil grá agam dóibh, diúltóidh dom féin" (literally "For the sake of those whom I love, I will deny myself")

Hopefully we can come up with a shorter (and more idiomatic) way of saying this! I know we did it a time or two on the old site, but I don't go over there anymore.

Wait for more.

Redwolf


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PostPosted: Wed 20 Nov 2013 5:04 pm 
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Much appreciated.


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PostPosted: Thu 21 Nov 2013 3:42 pm 
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Folks, this is a tattoo request. It needs more than just me responding to it.

It was almost a full day before anyone even responded with an "I'm not sure, but welcome to the forum. I'm sure someone will be along soon who can help." If we're going to invite people to seek translations here, and not just have this be a forum where we argue endlessly about dialects and about the best way to promote the language, we need to be more proactive about welcoming translation seekers to the forum and making an attempt to help them.

Here endeth the lecture.

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Nov 2013 6:49 pm 
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wilfitz13 wrote:

"For those I love I will sacrifice"

and

"Love may be delayed but not destroyed"

My suggestions:

I will sacrifice for those I love.
Déanfaidh mé íobairt dóibh siúd a bhfuil grá agam dóibh.

Love may be delayed but not destroyed.
Is féidir moill a chur ar an ngrá, ach ní féidir é a mhilleadh.

Wait for confirmation or other suggestions.

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PostPosted: Thu 21 Nov 2013 7:03 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
wilfitz13 wrote:

"For those I love I will sacrifice"

and

"Love may be delayed but not destroyed"

My suggestions:

I will sacrifice for those I love.
Déanfaidh mé íobairt dóibh siúd a bhfuil grá agam dóibh.

Love may be delayed but not destroyed.
Is féidir moill a chur ar an ngrá, ach ní féidir é a mhilleadh.

Wait for confirmation or other suggestions.


Thanks...I'm so glad you weighed in on this! I'd flirted with "íobairt," but thought it might sound too much like I was planning to slaughter a calf on an altar! This is when it's especially nice to get a native speaker's take.

Redwolf


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PostPosted: Thu 21 Nov 2013 8:13 pm 
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Redwolf wrote:
I'd flirted with "íobairt," but thought it might sound too much like I was planning to slaughter a calf on an altar!


I think "íobairt" can be used figuratively too, no blood spilled. :)

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Nov 2013 2:53 pm 
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I am in awe of how intellectual you all are. I am a reasonably intelligent person but I am not sure I put as much thought into English as you put into this language. Very impressive. I have a few weeks before final design sign offs so I will wait and see what else comes up. Again, very much appreciated.


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PostPosted: Fri 22 Nov 2013 3:44 pm 
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wilfitz13 wrote:
I am in awe of how intellectual you all are. I am a reasonably intelligent person but I am not sure I put as much thought into English as you put into this language. Very impressive. I have a few weeks before final design sign offs so I will wait and see what else comes up. Again, very much appreciated.


That's translation for you (in any language, really). Often literal translation doesn't work (though sometimes it does). It's very possible to write something that's grammatically correct and "works" from a dictionary standpoint, but doesn't actually make much sense. That's when it's really nice to have a native speaker such as Bríd weigh in.

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PostPosted: Fri 22 Nov 2013 4:41 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
wilfitz13 wrote:

"For those I love I will sacrifice"

and

"Love may be delayed but not destroyed"

My suggestions:

I will sacrifice for those I love.
Déanfaidh mé íobairt dóibh siúd a bhfuil grá agam dóibh.

Love may be delayed but not destroyed.
Is féidir moill a chur ar an ngrá, ach ní féidir é a mhilleadh.

Wait for confirmation or other suggestions.

Nice work, Bríd. :good:

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