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 Post subject: A bow-wave of a boat
PostPosted: Mon 04 Nov 2013 8:47 pm 
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This is the name of a group of singers and musicians from West Kerry, who have put the poems of Caoimhín Ó Cinnéide to music. In Irish their name and the title of their CD is 'Béal Tuinne' - the mouth of a wave, but I thought the genitive singular of tonn would be toinne (as they have it in the Cork Irish wordpress dictionary). Is this a local way of spelling it ? the pronunciation they give is - Beel Thinneh.
www.bealtuinne.com


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 Post subject: Re: A bow-wave of a boat
PostPosted: Wed 06 Nov 2013 12:26 am 
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The Cork Irish dictionary also gives the genitive as "tuinne" in the traditional Gaelic script, so I take it that "tuinne" was used before the spelling reform.

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 Post subject: Re: A bow-wave of a boat
PostPosted: Wed 06 Nov 2013 1:07 am 
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Before the standard a lot of broad vowels were interchangeable depending on dialectal preference or even within the same dialect or/ and sub-dialect. It was especially common in the genitive:

i.e. Clann Clainne/ Cloinne

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 Post subject: Re: A bow-wave of a boat
PostPosted: Wed 06 Nov 2013 2:08 pm 
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Go raibh maith agaibh a chairde - it's a CD I borrowed from the Médiathèque of the CCI in Paris. I'm sure that anyone who is interested in the Irish language and music of the Corca Dhuibhne would find it very worthwhile having.
PS I've just had in the post today a rare copy of a trilingual (Gaeilge/English/Italiano) edition of the poetry of Caitlín Maude with the ownership stamp of Risteárd Ó Glaisne as well as a copy (with two CDs) of Coiglímis an Tine - Cnuasach Seanchais agus Scéalta Bhab Feiritéar.
Slán go fóill
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