Could someone confirm for me whether I am doing this correctly with the genitive and also the relative clause? Cad é ainm na réalta ar bhí tú ag caint faoi tráthnóna inné? = What is the name of the star that you were talking about yesterday evening?; for instance, Polaris, Betelgeuse, ect. Thanks.

I think you need a form of raibh, since the indirect relative takes the dependent form.

I know this is a grammatical excercise, but a more natural version (I think) would be:

Cad é an ainm atá ar an réalt san a rabhais ag caint mar gheall uirthi inné?

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why not "Cad é an t-ainm atá ar na réalta san a rabhais ag caint mar gheall orthu inné?" ?

"réalta" was a plural in Asenion's sentence.

In Donegal Irish it would be
"Goidé an t-ainm atá ar na réalta sin a rabh tú a labhairt fá dtaobh daofa inné?".

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ainm is feminine in Munster.


I think it was meant to be singular, in the translation is of the star, rather than of the stars.
Should be Réalt though!


That one is because I'm an idiot! Made even worse that I made the point of saying you need rabhais myself.
Correct now, thanks!

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faoi tráthnóna inné - I don't know if this would require lenition of tráthnóna, but there is a word for "last night", which is aréir.

Also, you can have réiltín for star (diminutive).

Cad é an ainm atá ar an réiltín sin go rabhais ag caint mar gheall uirthi aréir?

Plural:

Cad iad na hainmneacha atá ar na réiltíní sin go rabhais ag caint mar gheall orthu aréir?

Or: you put the "ar" in first:

Cad é an ainm atá ar an réiltín ar a rabhais ag caint aréir?
Cad iad na hainmneacha atá ar an réiltíní sin ar a rabhais ag caint aréir?

faoi means "about it" (about the star), that's why it doesn't lenite tráthnóna.



réiltín is feminine? (gml I'm not a specialist of Munster Irish)

I didn't know ainm was feminine somewhere weird!

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Well, the noun of which it is the diminutive is feminine.

That said, I have only read of réiltín becoming an réiltín in the genitive, but I have seen réiltín being referred to as í.

yes but that's not an evidence, I guess there are feminine words that change gender after adding the -ín ending.



but again that's no evidence since "cat" is referred to as í, and a few other words like that too ; cailín to although it's feminine... well, things aren't simple in Irish

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Generally speaking, adding a diminutive ending makes a noun masculine.

Redwolf

Well, Lughaidh, as you say there is a difference between declining a word as feminine, and just referring to it as í. Bád is a case in point. So, applying that principle, it's not wrong to refer to a réiltín as í (or uirthi, as I did above).

I think it is generally the case the diminutives are masculine, but you can find some evidence of diminutives, at least in dialectal literature, being determined by the gender of the base noun - eg na luichíne in the genitive.

But, as I said, I don't actually have any evidence of **na réiltíne - just of an réiltín in the genitive, although I have found it referred to as í.

Maybe luichíne is different, because a mouse might be thought of as feminine in the way you talk to children about animals?