In addition to learning a lot about the Irish of Corca Dhuibhne last week. I also
ended up with a lot of questions about the Irish of Conamara. I have quite a bunch
of them in my notebook, so I wanted to start a thread here for them.

So, I'll start. In Conamara, what would most people say for "The men's hats". It's a
dumb sentence I know, but I'm not clever enough to come up with a good one!

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

Hataí fir / The mens hats

Thanks Seaghan.

Mo chéad cheist eile:
Conas a déarfaí "I am breaking the windows" sa Ghaelainn Chonamara?

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The dialect I use is Cork Irish.
Ar sgáth a chéile a mhairid na daoine, lag agus láidir, uasal is íseal

hataí na fir OR hataí na bhfear (both forms exist) for "the men's hats", I'd say.

Hataí fir would be "Men's hats" as in a sign in a menswear shop, for example.

For "I am breaking the windows", I think Tá mé a' briseadh na bhfuinneogaí OR Tá mé a' briseadh na bhfuinneog.

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

Yes I'd prefer to scrap that, not sure where I was going with it. I should have written 'hataí fear' for 'mens hats'. 'Hataí fir' is incorrect.

'Hataí na bhfear' = 'the men's hats'. 'Hataí na fir' is incorrect.

I am breaking the windows = Tá mé a(g) briseadh na bhfuinneoga.

In Conamara bhfuinneoga is pronounced as if spelled bhfuinneogaí.

Always glad to hear the opinions of others.

I would argue then that it should be spelt bhfuinneogaí, as otherwise you end up with dialectal literature in a semi - disguised form where you can't see the real pronunciations. Is the o long or short? Is it bhfuinneogaí or bhfuinneógaí?

Despite what is taught in schools (I guess) and in books, the plural ending -a isn't the same as the plural ending -aí. -aí isn't only a variant of -a, it's a different ending, that's why Connemara and Ulster speakers shouldn't write -a when they say -aí, if they want to be faithful to their dialect...


Btw, fuinneóg(aí) is an old spelling ; when they created the simplified spelling and the CO, they decided that since there's almost no historical short "eo", people should write "-eo" all the time instead of -eó-, to save ink (the only words with historical short "eo" are seo, anseo, deoch and eochair -- if I remember well!).

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Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne

Yes, the Connemara dialect spelling ought to be fuinneóig for the simgular and fuinneógaí for the plural.

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Múinteoir Gaeilge - Irish Teacher
My "specialty" is Connemara Irish, particularly Cois Fhairrge dialect, but I can also speak Ulster and Munster Irish with native-level pronunciation.
Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).

And some other short eo's = leogaim (=ligim/leigim)

Yeah you could also spell it "liogaim" (maybe).
In Ulster "liog" corresponds to standard "leag", and "leig" corresponds to standard "lig".

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Is fearr Gaeilg na Gaeltaċta ná Gaeilg ar biṫ eile
Agus is í Gaeilg Ġaoṫ Doḃair is binne