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PostPosted: Tue 13 Aug 2013 5:34 pm 
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I was talking to some people on boards.ie and they recommended talking to the Irish language forum. :D So here is my question. I am doing an important project with some Irish interwoven in it. I would love if someone could help me and make sure my translations are correct as my Irish is not as good as I wish it was. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. They are just two sentences. I have them in English and Irish. Could someone please check and see if they are correct or even suggest changes. If it works out and I get published, I will mention the Forum in my acknowledgement.
‘Oh, deithe na spéire treoir dom trí go sábháilte agus an turas a dhéanamh, sábháilte sa bhaile, go raibh maith agat. Oh gods of the sky guide me through safely and make the journey home safe, thanks’.

‘A Seanda Dia linn go dté tu slán agus súil a choinneáil ar anam. Go raibh maith agat. My Ancients, bless us with a safe journey and keep our souls safe. Thanks’

Any and all help greatly appreciated :)


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PostPosted: Tue 13 Aug 2013 7:55 pm 
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Bui wrote:
I was talking to some people on boards.ie and they recommended talking to the Irish language forum. :D So here is my question. I am doing an important project with some Irish interwoven in it. I would love if someone could help me and make sure my translations are correct as my Irish is not as good as I wish it was. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. They are just two sentences. I have them in English and Irish. Could someone please check and see if they are correct or even suggest changes. If it works out and I get published, I will mention the Forum in my acknowledgement.
‘Oh, deithe na spéire treoir dom trí go sábháilte agus an turas a dhéanamh, sábháilte sa bhaile, go raibh maith agat. Oh gods of the sky guide me through safely and make the journey home safe, thanks’.

‘A Seanda Dia linn go dté tu slán agus súil a choinneáil ar anam. Go raibh maith agat. My Ancients, bless us with a safe journey and keep our souls safe. Thanks’

Any and all help greatly appreciated :)


Can I suggest a new important project for you? Learning Irish, from the beginning?


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PostPosted: Tue 13 Aug 2013 9:00 pm 
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Hi Patrick,Thank you for the help it was greatly appreciated.(sarcasm)
I have my book almost ready to go to my agent. I need to refine my Irish sentences. I do not have time to go back and learn Irish presently. Thank you for the suggestion, but I didn't think the sentences I wrote were that bad.
In the book there are two sentences in Irish: the two given. and a few words spattered here and there. (e,g, Light (solas), and I am ( is mise)) I'm really genuinely looking for help. Could you recommend someone who could if you find this a less then worthy project.
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Bui wrote:
I was talking to some people on boards.ie and they recommended talking to the Irish language forum. :D So here is my question. I am doing an important project with some Irish interwoven in it. I would love if someone could help me and make sure my translations are correct as my Irish is not as good as I wish it was. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. They are just two sentences. I have them in English and Irish. Could someone please check and see if they are correct or even suggest changes. If it works out and I get published, I will mention the Forum in my acknowledgement.
‘Oh, deithe na spéire treoir dom trí go sábháilte agus an turas a dhéanamh, sábháilte sa bhaile, go raibh maith agat. Oh gods of the sky guide me through safely and make the journey home safe, thanks’.

‘A Seanda Dia linn go dté tu slán agus súil a choinneáil ar anam. Go raibh maith agat. My Ancients, bless us with a safe journey and keep our souls safe. Thanks’

Any and all help greatly appreciated :)
Buí, fáilte go ILF. :wave:
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Can I suggest a new important project for you? Learning Irish, from the beginning?
Seriously patrickjwalsh, what is the point of a comment like that? If you can help someone, please do it. If you cannot, please do not give such an awful first impression to someone of our forum. We welcome people with all levels of Irish and none to ILF. We invite all questions which are relevant to Irish and Buí's questions were both relevant and polite.

Buí, the forum is a little quiet at the moment as some members are on holiday, but someone will be along to help you with the translations you need. I am sorry about the first response you received, it is not how we usually do business around here. Saoirse.

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Aug 2013 10:57 pm 
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Thank you Insect Overlord for your nice comments and to Gumbi too for the referral.

Bui wrote:
‘Oh, deithe na spéire treoir dom trí go sábháilte agus an turas a dhéanamh, sábháilte sa bhaile, go raibh maith agat. Oh gods of the sky guide me through safely and make the journey home safe, thanks’.

‘A Seanda Dia linn go dté tu slán agus súil a choinneáil ar anam. Go raibh maith agat. My Ancients, bless us with a safe journey and keep our souls safe. Thanks’


That's a bit of a tough one. :S
This is just a suggestion and not directly translated.



Oh gods of the sky guide me through safely and make the journey home safe, thanks

A dheithe na spéire treoiraigh mé thríd an turas agus abhaile sábháilte, go raibh maith agaibh.



My Ancients, bless us with a safe journey and keep our souls safe. Thanks

A mhuintir ársa, beannaigh muid le turas sábháilte agus cúmhdaigh ár n-anamacha slán sábháilte. Go raibh maith agaibh.
OR
A mhuintir ársa, tabhair dúinn bhur mbeannacht agus coinnigh ár n-anamacha sábháilte ar an mbealach (abhaile). Go raibh maith agaibh.

Definitely wait for confirmations and other suggestions.

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Aug 2013 11:13 pm 
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Bríd knows a hundred times more Irish than I ever will, so it's with great trepidation that I make a suggestion. Since the requests are being made of the gods [plural] and the ancients [plural], would these changes be appropriate?

A dheithe na spéire treoraígí mé thríd an turas agus abhaile sábháilte, go raibh maith agaibh.
[corrected per Braoin's note in a later post]

and, unless muinitir is treated as a collective noun (in which case, ignore these next two):

A mhuintir ársa, beannaígí muid le turas sábháilte agus cúmhdaigh ár n-anamacha slán sábháilte. Go raibh maith agaibh.
A mhuintir ársa, tugaigí dúinn bhur mbeannacht agus coinnigh ár n-anamacha sábháilte ar an mbealach (abhaile). Go raibh maith agaibh.

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Aug 2013 11:26 pm 
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Caoimhín your Irish is very good. You know my spelling mistakes are famous. :bash:


Welcome to ILF Buí (And I agree with Saoirse too). :wave:

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Aug 2013 11:49 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
Thank you Insect Overlord for your nice comments and to Gumbi too for the referral.

Bui wrote:
‘Oh, deithe na spéire treoir dom trí go sábháilte agus an turas a dhéanamh, sábháilte sa bhaile, go raibh maith agat. Oh gods of the sky guide me through safely and make the journey home safe, thanks’.

‘A Seanda Dia linn go dté tu slán agus súil a choinneáil ar anam. Go raibh maith agat. My Ancients, bless us with a safe journey and keep our souls safe. Thanks’


That's a bit of a tough one. :S
This is just a suggestion and not directly translated.



Oh gods of the sky guide me through safely and make the journey home safe, thanks

A dheithe na spéire treoiraigh mé thríd an turas agus abhaile sábháilte, go raibh maith agaibh.



My Ancients, bless us with a safe journey and keep our souls safe. Thanks

A mhuintir ársa, beannaigh muid le turas sábháilte agus cúmhdaigh ár n-anamacha slán sábháilte. Go raibh maith agaibh.
OR
A mhuintir ársa, tabhair dúinn bhur mbeannacht agus coinnigh ár n-anamacha sábháilte ar an mbealach (abhaile). Go raibh maith agaibh.

Definitely wait for confirmations and other suggestions.

Perhaps the plural imperative -(a)igí/(a)ígí could be used instead of the singular imperative, Bríd, since this is addressed to "gods" rather than a god (though that might be less common in colloquial Irish):

A dheithe na spéire, treoraígí mé thríd an turas agus abhaile sábháilte, go raibh maith agaibh.

A mhuintir ársa, beannaígí muid le turas sábháilte agus cúmhdaígí ár n-anam† slán sábháilte. Go raibh maith agaibh.
OR
A mhuintir ársa, tabharaigí/tugaigí dúinn bhur mbeannacht agus coinnígí ár n-anam† sábháilte ar an mbealach (abhaile). Go raibh maith agaibh.


†Applying the "one nose in Ireland" rule, I would suggest that ár n-anam is more idiomatic than ár n-anamacha, but it is a bit of an "either/or" thing, i.e., both are correct.

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Aug 2013 11:52 pm 
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Bui wrote:
I was talking to some people on boards.ie and they recommended talking to the Irish language forum. :D So here is my question. I am doing an important project with some Irish interwoven in it. I would love if someone could help me and make sure my translations are correct as my Irish is not as good as I wish it was. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. They are just two sentences. I have them in English and Irish. Could someone please check and see if they are correct or even suggest changes. If it works out and I get published, I will mention the Forum in my acknowledgement.
‘Oh, deithe na spéire treoir dom trí go sábháilte agus an turas a dhéanamh, sábháilte sa bhaile, go raibh maith agat. Oh gods of the sky guide me through safely and make the journey home safe, thanks’.

‘A Seanda Dia linn go dté tu slán agus súil a choinneáil ar anam. Go raibh maith agat. My Ancients, bless us with a safe journey and keep our souls safe. Thanks’

Any and all help greatly appreciated :)


Hi Buí you are very welcome to the forum. Your translations are not to bad but need work.

'Oh gods of the sky guide me through safely and make the journey home safe, thanks’

A dhéithe na spéire, go dtreoirí sibh tríd an gcruachás go sabháilte mé agus go mbronnaí (sibh) sabháilteacht ar mo thuras abhaile dom; go raibh maith agaibh

Oh Gods of the sky, may ye guide me through my hardship safely and may ye grant safety upon my journey home; thank ye

Through what exactly?

or if through doesn't really mean anything:

A dhéithe na spéire, go dtreoirí sibh tríd an turas seo abhaile go sabháilte mé; go raibh maith agaibh

or different word order:

A dhéithe na spéire, go dtreoirí sibh mé go sabháilte tríd an turas seo abhaile; go raibh maith agaibh

Oh Gods of the sky, may ye guide me safely through this journey home; thank ye*

*ye, being the Hiberno-English plural form of "you"

'My Ancients, bless us with a safe journey and keep our souls safe. Thanks’

I am not sure what you mean by "ancients" here? What about my ancestors?

A shinseara, go mbeannaí sibh turas sabháilte orainn agus go gcoimeádaí (sibh) ár n-anamacha sabháilte leis; go raibh maith agaibh

My ancestors, may ye bless us with a safe journey and may ye keep our souls safe; thanks

You could of course use the Modh Ordaitheach instead of the Modh foshuiteach láithreach for these as well.

Wait for some more input!

Crossed with Bríd, Caoimhín agus Breandán

Cian

edited to fix typo on go dtreoirí, edited to fix spéire

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Aug 2013 11:59 pm 
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Go dtreoirí right? Also, Munster would make it tríd an dturas right?

The rest looks really good :good:

Oh, and this is a very minor point, but the position of mé in this I would change

A dhéithe na spéíre, go dtreoirí sibh mé go sabháilte tríd an turas seo abhaile; go raibh maith agaibh

to "go sábháilte mé..."

Thoughts?


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