Translation: "Amazing grace how sweet the sound"

Breandán · **Posted:** Fri 17 Aug 2012 10:10 am

Scooby wrote:

Is 'amazing grace' being addressed in English? If so, then the vocative is correct - but it does say 'the sound' in English where it could have said 'your sound' - but doesn't.

As far as I can tell there is no direct address anywhere at all in the English song. :no:

(Maybe the translator imagined some wonderful woman named Grace? :LOL:

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An Cionnfhaolach · **Joined:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 6:16 pm **Posts:** 1527

Breandán wrote:

(I've placed the Irish in bold to make it clearer as we suggest in the Forum Rules.)

Thanks, I should be more consistent with using the bold font.

Breandán wrote:

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

Another suggestion: amazing Grace how sweet the sound:

Grásta uamhain- nach binn an fhuaim "Grace of awe- how wonderful/ sweet the sound."

I think looking for an alternative to iontach is a great idea and I like the sound of uamhan but doesn't it mean "fear, dread" instead of "wonder, amazement"?

Your dead right, if uamhan is not used in a religious context- uamhan means terror or phobia. However, when uamhan is used in a religious context it means awe- which itself is a mixture of dread/ fear, power, beauty, respect, love, wonder, amazement and authority.

Breandán · **Posted:** Sat 18 Aug 2012 9:38 pm

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

Breandán wrote:

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

Another suggestion: amazing Grace how sweet the sound:

Grásta uamhain- nach binn an fhuaim "Grace of awe- how wonderful/ sweet the sound."

I think looking for an alternative to iontach is a great idea and I like the sound of uamhan but doesn't it mean "fear, dread" instead of "wonder, amazement"?

You're dead right, if uamhan is not used in a religious context- uamhan means terror or phobia. However, when uamhan is used in a religious context it means awe- which itself is a mixture of dread/ fear, power, beauty, respect, love, wonder, amazement and authority.

It's a nice sounding word. How do others feel about it's overall meaning? Being a hymn, the context certainly is religious. :yes:

An Cionnfhaolach · **Joined:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 6:16 pm **Posts:** 1527

Breandán wrote:

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

Breandán wrote:

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

Another suggestion: amazing Grace how sweet the sound:

Grásta uamhain- nach binn an fhuaim "Grace of awe- how wonderful/ sweet the sound."

I think looking for an alternative to iontach is a great idea and I like the sound of uamhan but doesn't it mean "fear, dread" instead of "wonder, amazement"?

You're dead right, if uamhan is not used in a religious context- uamhan means terror or phobia. However, when uamhan is used in a religious context it means awe- which itself is a mixture of dread/ fear, power, beauty, respect, love, wonder, amazement and authority.

It's a nice sounding word. How do others feel about it's overall meaning? Being a hymn, the context certainly is religious. :yes:

You' re: punctuation can kill :rofl:

Bríd Mhór · **Joined:** Sun 28 Aug 2011 8:29 pm **Posts:** 2985

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

Breandán wrote:

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

Breandán wrote:

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

Another suggestion: amazing Grace how sweet the sound:

Grásta uamhain- nach binn an fhuaim "Grace of awe- how wonderful/ sweet the sound."

I think looking for an alternative to iontach is a great idea and I like the sound of uamhan but doesn't it mean "fear, dread" instead of "wonder, amazement"?

You're dead right, if uamhan is not used in a religious context- uamhan means terror or phobia. However, when uamhan is used in a religious context it means awe- which itself is a mixture of dread/ fear, power, beauty, respect, love, wonder, amazement and authority.

It's a nice sounding word. How do others feel about it's overall meaning? Being a hymn, the context certainly is religious. :yes:

You' re: punctuation can kill :rofl:

In blazing red too :LOL:

Maybe Cionnfhaolach meant to say this time - Your punctuation can kill :rofl:

Although I think it's more a case of spelling that punctuation.

An Cionnfhaolach · **Joined:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 6:16 pm **Posts:** 1527

Bríd Mhór wrote:

In blazing red too :LOL:

Bríd Mhór wrote:

Maybe Cionnfhaolach meant to say this time - Your punctuation can kill :rofl:

Although I think it's more a case of spelling that punctuation.

, nope that's not what I meant. I was thanking Breandán for fixing my mistake and the dangers of in-proper punctuation.

Punctuation kills:

Let's eat Grandma

Let's eat, Grandma

:LOL:

Saoirse · **Posted:** Sun 19 Aug 2012 12:33 pm

An Cionnfhaolach wrote:

Punctuation kills:Let's eat GrandmaLet's eat, Grandma

A panda walks into a restaurant, sits down and orders a sandwich. After he finishes eating the sandwich, the panda pulls out a gun and shoots the waiter, and then stands up to go. "Hey!" shouts the manager. "Where are you going? You just shot my waiter and you didn't pay for your sandwich!"

The panda yells back at the manager, "Hey man, I am a PANDA! Look it up!"

The manager opens his dictionary and sees the following definition for panda: "A tree-dwelling marsupial of Asian origin, characterised by distinct black and white colouring. Eats shoots and leaves."

Caithfidh sé fanacht i mBéarla.

Scooby · **Joined:** Tue 06 Sep 2011 7:18 pm **Posts:** 576

Ah, the old ones are the best! It reminds me of the following:
Capitalisation is the difference between helping Uncle Jack of his horse and...

:twisted:

Saoirse · **Posted:** Sun 19 Aug 2012 12:51 pm

Scooby wrote:

Ah, the old one's are the best! It reminds me of the following:
Capitalisation is the difference between helping Uncle Jack of his horse and...

:twisted:

An Cionnfhaolach · **Joined:** Fri 09 Mar 2012 6:16 pm **Posts:** 1527

Scooby wrote:

Ah, the old one's are the best! It reminds me of the following:
Capitalisation is the difference between helping Uncle Jack of his horse and...

:twisted:

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