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PostPosted: Mon 19 Jul 2021 9:12 pm 
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Labhrás wrote:
Breandán wrote:
and i d'iomláine would be i d'iomlán.

No, iomláine, "entirety", is correct.
https://www.teanglann.ie/ga/fgb/ioml%c3%a1ine
i d'iomláine - lit. "in your entirety"

Ah, I see. I was looking under iomlán in Ó Dónaill, which gives ina iomlán for "in its entirety".

So, apparently both are correct, but since Bríd's is not incorrect, there is no need for correction.

John R wrote:
So do these look correct?

Táim agus beidh mé do d'iarraidh i d’iomláine,
go deo, mise agus tusa, gach lá.


And for Munster…
Teastaíonn tú agus teastóidh tú uaim i d'iomláine,
go brách, mise agus tusa, chaon lá.


These both look so different from what was originally recommended. Any thoughts on how to best determine which is most accurate? Thank you!

No, some of the H's need to be replaced with poncanna séimhithe (lenition dots):

Táim agus beiḋ mé do d'iarraiḋ i d’iomláine,
go deo, mise agus tusa, gaċ lá.


And for Munster…
Teastaíonn tú agus teastóiḋ tú uaim i d'iomláine,
go bráċ, mise agus tusa, ċaon lá.


Perhaps we could ask Cian, or one of the other Munster speakers, to look at the Munster version.

Await further input ...

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Jul 2021 3:47 am 
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Breandán wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
John R wrote:
My tattoo appointment is next week. Can anyone give this a last glance to ensure I don’t become one of those “worst tattoos” memes. :LOL:

Thank you all again for all of the help!

Ba ṁaiṫ liom tú go hiomlán,
go deo, mise agus tusa, gaċ lá.


I'm not sure about that. It sounds a bit strange in English too.


Just a suggestion:

Tá mé a d'iarraidh i d'iomláine.

I'm not sure if that E on the end is only in Conamara, or is it found in the Standard too. So we need 3 to agree on this one.

Thank you for the native input from Bríd. :-)

I think a d'iarraidh would be do d'iarraidh in Standard, and i d'iomláine would be i d'iomlán.

Clare originally had a mixture of Munster and Connacht Irish. The best person to ask would be someone from Inis Oírr.

Standardising what Bríd has given us:

Táim do d'iarraidh i d'iomlán. "I want all of you"

Looking at what you had:

ba mhaith liom "I would like".

That's a polite way of saying "I want" but maybe a bit too polite for a declaration of love, etc.

go hiomlán "completely" (seems to modify the verb, more than "you")

go deo "forever"
Munster also uses go brách
mise agus tusa "you and me"
gach lá "every day" (CO)
chuile lá "every day" (CG)
chaon lá "every day" (GM)

So, the second line looks okay for CO. :good:

Putting it together

Táim agus beidh mé do d'iarraidh i d'iomlán,
go deo, mise agus tusa, gach lá.


"I want all of you,
forever, you and me, every day."

For more of a Munster leaning:

Teastaíonn tú agus teastóidh tú uaim i d'iomlán,
go brách, mise agus tusa, chaon lá.


Further input welcome, especially from Munster speakers ...


Out of curiosity, if Táim do d'iarraidh i d'iomlán is “I want all of you”, then why the addition of agus beidh mé?

Thank you for being so patient with me. I really appreciate all of this help.


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PostPosted: Tue 27 Jul 2021 6:13 pm 
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
John R wrote:
My tattoo appointment is next week. Can anyone give this a last glance to ensure I don’t become one of those “worst tattoos” memes. :LOL:

Thank you all again for all of the help!

Ba ṁaiṫ liom tú go hiomlán,
go deo, mise agus tusa, gaċ lá.


I'm not sure about that. It sounds a bit strange in English too.


Just a suggestion:

Tá mé a d'iarraidh i d'iomláine.

I'm not sure if that E on the end is only in Conamara, or is it found in the Standard too. So we need 3 to agree on this one.


I think I like this translation best (if I’m understanding it correctly). I know there are some issues with lineation dots and something or other. Could anyone please look this over? Thank you.

Tá mé a d'iarraiḋ i d’iomláine,
go deo, mise agus tusa, gaċ lá.


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