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PostPosted: Fri 14 May 2021 1:50 am 
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Ok, a bit silly, but how would you put the subject line in Irish?

Is éan é! Is eitleán é! Is Superman é!

May be technically correct, but doesn't seem emphatic enough.
Any suggestions?


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PostPosted: Fri 14 May 2021 9:35 am 
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Vitaee wrote:
Ok, a bit silly, but how would you put the subject line in Irish?

Is éan é! Is eitleán é! Is Superman é!

May be technically correct, but doesn't seem emphatic enough.
Any suggestions?


'Éan atá ann! Eitleán atá ann! Superman atá ann!' ('Sárfhear'?)
or
'Éan is ea é! Eitleán is ea é! Superman is ea é!

According to the Christian Brothers grammar book these are emphatic forms of 'Is x é', but they are virtually the default forms in Ulster and Munster respectively.


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PostPosted: Fri 14 May 2021 11:41 am 
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Superman is ea é = He is a Superman. (Munster Irish)

Superman is é é = He is Superman. (Munster Irish)

Is Superman é = He is a Superman (C & U)

Is é Superman é = He is Superman (C & U).

In U at least, one can use "XYZ atá ann" with a definite or an indefinite predicate:
Superman atá ann = he is Superman & he is a Superman.

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PostPosted: Fri 14 May 2021 5:50 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
Superman is ea é = He is a Superman. (Munster Irish)

Superman is é é = He is Superman. (Munster Irish)

Is Superman é = He is a Superman (C & U)

Is é Superman é = He is Superman (C & U).

In U at least, one can use "XYZ atá ann" with a definite or an indefinite predicate:
Superman atá ann = he is Superman & he is a Superman.


Thanks, Lughaidh.
I knew almost all of that, but I posted in such a hurry my brain failed to register that, unlike the first two, the Superman one is an identification sentence. :oops: What I didn't know was that 'X is é é' is used in Munster for identification sentences - I've seen 'X is ea é' used incorrectly for that purpose.


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PostPosted: Fri 14 May 2021 8:25 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
Superman is ea é = He is a Superman. (Munster Irish)

Superman is é é = He is Superman. (Munster Irish)

Is Superman é = He is a Superman (C & U)

Is é Superman é = He is Superman (C & U).

In U at least, one can use "XYZ atá ann" with a definite or an indefinite predicate:
Superman atá ann = he is Superman & he is a Superman.


I also failed to realize that "It's Superman" should be treated as definite.

So, in Ulster at least, it would be

Is éan é. Is eitleán é. Superman atá ann!!!"

To me, it sounds better if the first two aren't emphatic, but the last one is.
Would the above be a good translation?


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