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PostPosted: Sat 07 Jan 2017 8:07 pm 
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Hi everyone! I am considering getting a new tattoo. There are two options. This first is getting my grandparents names (but the Irish Gaelic version) tattooed. The tattoo would be "Mary and Charlie". The second option is a quote by my favorite book, the Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck translated into Irish Gaelic. The quote is “How can we live without our lives? How will we know it's us without our past?” If anyone could translate these to be that would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!


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ccapp003 wrote:
Hi everyone! I am considering getting a new tattoo. There are two options. This first is getting my grandparents names (but the Irish Gaelic version) tattooed. The tattoo would be "Mary and Charlie". The second option is a quote by my favorite book, the Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck translated into Irish Gaelic. The quote is “How can we live without our lives? How will we know it's us without our past?” If anyone could translate these to be that would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!



“How can we live without our lives?" - :??:

"How will we know it's us without our past?” - Cén chaoi ar féidir linn a bheith cinnte gur muid féin atá ann gan an aimsir atá caite.

But it's just a suggestion, I'm sure others will make a much better job of it.


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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jan 2017 5:26 pm 
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ccapp003 wrote:
Hi everyone! I am considering getting a new tattoo. There are two options. This first is getting my grandparents names (but the Irish Gaelic version) tattooed. The tattoo would be "Mary and Charlie". ... Thanks in advance!

Well, names don't really get "translated" between languages. They usually stay the same in translation, unless the two languages have a different writing system, in which case they are transcribed.

Sometimes people adopt an Irish (or English) nickname and come to be known by it, but that isn't really the case with your grandparents, so Máire agus Séarlas wouldn't really mean much to them or to anyone who knew them.

Bríd Mhór wrote:
ccapp003 wrote:
The second option is a quote by my favorite book, the Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck translated into Irish Gaelic. The quote is “How can we live without our lives? How will we know it's us without our past?” If anyone could translate these to be that would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!


“How can we live without our lives?" - :??:

"How will we know it's us without our past?” - Cén chaoi ar féidir linn a bheith cinnte gur muid féin atá ann gan an aimsir atá caite.

But it's just a suggestion, I'm sure others will make a much better job of it.

I like that Bríd.

Here's some other possibilities:

Cén chaoi a bhféadfaidh muid maireachtáil gan scéal ár saol againn? “How can we live without our lives?"
Cén chaoi a mbéas a fhios againn gur muid féin atá ann gan ár startha againn? “How will we know it's us without our past?"

Await further input ...

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jan 2017 11:43 pm 
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For me, I will put my favorite quote.

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jan 2017 12:24 am 
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Sometimes people adopt an Irish (or English) nickname and come to be known by it, but that isn't really the case with your grandparents, so Máire agus Séarlas wouldn't really mean much to them or to anyone who knew them.

I agree, but the Irish forms are close enough to their English equivalents (indeed, neither is of English or Gaelic origin) that it wouldn't hurt to use Irish/Gaelic equivalents. In fact, while the formal name Charles is of course of French origin (and earlier from either the Latin Carolus or the German name Karl -- I'm not sure which came first), I think the diminutive "Charlie" may actually come from the Scottish Gaelic form Searlaich (nowadays also Tearlaich, which emphasizes the "ch" sound), so if you want to do both names in Scottish Gaelic you'd have:

Màiri 's Searlaich [note that in Gaelic the accent runs in the opposite direction to that in Irish]
Màiri 's Tearlaich
Mary and Charlie

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