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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2016 12:33 pm 
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Good morning, I'm Martina from Italy.
I'm a singer in Accademia San Felice in Florence.
I'm preparing some Irish folk songs for my next exhibition.
I need some help to understand the pronunciation of the song 'Eanach Dhuin'.
I found some videos on you tube but is not easy to understand the right pronunciation.

Could you help me?

Here the Text I have:

Má fháighimse sláinte is fada bhéas tráchtadh ar an méid a báthadh as Eanach Dhúin, 'S mo thrua amárach gach athair's máthair, Bean is páiste 'tá ag sileadh súl. A Rí na ngrást', a cheap neamh is párthas, Nár bheag an tábh'cht dúinn beirt nó triúr, Ach lá chomh breá leis gan gaoth gan báisteach Lán a' bháid acu 'scuab' ar siúl.
Nár mhór an t-ion-adh os comhair na ndaoine, A bhfeiceáil sínte ar chúl a gcinn, Screadadh's caoineadh a scanródh daoine, Gruaig á cíoradh 's an chreach á roinnt; Bhí buach'llí óg' ann 'tíocht an fhómhair, á síneadh 'r chróchar 's á dtabhairt go cill, 'S gurb é gléas a bpósta a bhí á dtórramh, 'S a Dhia na glóire, nár mhór an feall!
Milleán géar ar an ionaf céanna, Nár lasa réalt ann, 's nár éirí grian, A bháugh an méid úd a thtiail in éineacht Go Gaillimh ar aonach go moch Déardaoin. Na fir a ghléasadh cliath 'gus céachta, A threabhadh bréanra 's a chroitheadh síol, Is na mná dá réir sin a dhéanadh gach son rud, A shníomhadh bréid agus anairt chaol.
Loscadh sléibhe 'gus scalladh cléibhe Ar an áit ar éagadar is milléan crua, Mar is iomaí créatúr a d'fhág sé ag géarghol, Ag sileadh is ag éagaoin gach maidin Luain. Ní diobháil eolais a chuir dá dtreoir iad Ach mí-ádh mór a bhí sa gCaisléan Nua, 'S é críochnú m'amhrán gur báthadh mórán Is d'fhág ábhar dóláis ag Eanach Dhúin.


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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2016 2:19 pm 
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Buongiorno, Martina fiorentina. ;) At the moment, unfortunately, there's only one active native speaker on the forum - Bhríd Mhór. She does very good sound files, and I'm sure she'll do one for you, if she sees your post. If you get no answer within the next two days (or sooner if it's urgent),just ask again on this same thread.

(Some of us forum members sing in choirs, so it would be great to hear Accademia San Felice. Youtube?
And - pure curiosity - why your interest in Irish traditional songs?)


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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2016 9:27 pm 
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That's a quaire lump o' text there lad!

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2016 10:04 pm 
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A few typos. I might missed some:

Má fhaighimse sláinte is fada bhéas tráchtadh ar an méid a báthadh as Eanach Dhúin, 'S mo thrua amárach gach athair's máthair, Bean is páiste 'tá ag sileadh súl. A Rí na ngrást', a cheap neamh is parthas, Nár bheag an tábhacht dúinn beirt nó triúr, Ach lá chomh breá leis gan gaoth gan b(h)áisteach Lán a' bháid acu 'scuab' ar siúl.

Nár mhór an t-ionadh os comhair na ndaoine, A bhfeiceáil sínte ar chúl a gcinn, Screadadh's caoineadh a scanródh daoine, Gruaig á cíoradh 's an chreach á roinnt; Bhí buachaillí óg' ann 'tíocht an fhómhair, á síneadh 's chróchar 's á dtabhairt go cill, 'S gurb é gléas a bpósta a bhí á dtórramh, 'S a Dhia na glóire, nár mhór an feall!


Milleán géar ar an ionad céanna, Nár lasa réalt(a) ann, 's nár[bh] éirí grian, A bháigh an méid úd a thriail in éineacht Go Gaillimh ar aonach go moch Déardaoin. Na fir a ghléasadh cliath 'gus céachta, A threabhadh bréanra 's a chroitheadh síol, Is na mná dá réir sin a dhéanadh gach son rud, A shníomhadh bréid agus anairt chaol.

Loscadh sléibhe 'gus scalladh cléibhe Ar an áit ar éagadar is milleán crua, Mar is iomaí créatúr a d'fhág sé ag géarghol, Ag sileadh is ag éagaoin gach maidin Luain. Ní díobháil eolais a chuir dá dtreoir iad Ach mí-ádh mór a bhí sa gCaisléan Nua, 'S é críochnú m'amhrán gur báthadh mórán Is d'fhág ábhar dóláis ag Eanach Dhúin.

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PostPosted: Thu 31 Mar 2016 11:14 pm 
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Jay Bee wrote:
That's a quaire lump o' text there lad!


You may like it or lump it, but Bríd Mhór s'againne (please, Bríd) will do it. :)


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Apr 2016 12:23 am 
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I thought I felt my ears burning earlier. :LOL:

Má fháighimse sláinte is fada bhéas tráchtadh
ar an méid a báthadh as Eanach Dhúin,
Is mo thrua amárach gach athair is máthair,
bean is páiste 'tá ag sileadh súl.
A Rí na nGrásta, a cheap neamh is párthas,
Nár bheag an tábhácht dúinn beirt nó triúr,
Ach lá chomh breá leis gan gaoth gan báisteach
Lán a' bháid acu scuabadh ar siúl.


Nár mhór an t-ionadh os comhair na ndaoine,
iad a bhfeiceáil sínte ar chúl a gcinn,
Screadadh is caoineadh a scanródh daoine,
Bhí an Ghruaig á cíoradh is an chreach á roinnt;
Bhí buachallaí óga ann ag tíocht don fhómhair,
á síneadh ar chróchair is á dtabhairt go cill,
B‘é gléas a bpósta a bhí á dtórramh,
Is a Dhia na Glóire, nár mhór an feall.


Milleán géar ar an ionad céanna,
Nár lasa réalt ann, is nár éirí grian,
A bháigh an méid úd a thriail in éindí
go Gaillimh ar aonach go moch Déardaoin.
Na fir a ghléasadh cliath is céachta,
A threabhadh bréanra is a chroitheadh síol,
Is na mná dá réir sin a dhéanadh gach aon rud,
A shníomhadh bréid agus anairt chaol.


Loscadh sléibhe is scalladh cléibhe
Ar an áit ar éagadar is milléan crua,
Mar is iomaí créatúr a d'fhág sé ag géarghol,
Ag sileadh is ag éagaoin gach maidin Luain.
Ní diobháil eolais a chuir dá dtreoir iad
Ach mí-ádh mór a bhí sa gCaisléan Nua,
Is é críochnú m'amhrán gur báthadh mórán
Is d'fhág ábhar dóláis ag Eanach Dhúin.


I made a few changes. I hadn't seen the corrections Jay Bee had made then.

It's a very long song, and some verses are more commonly used than others.
Famous Galway song. Most people around here say Eanach Cuan, but Eanach Dhúin is correct too.

Soundfile here: https://app.box.com/s/54jvmhdazgbjmr0287uozmojp4321q85


I suggest if you sing it in the style of Joe Heaney, a great sean-nós singer from Connemara.
http://www.joeheaney.org/default.asp?contentID=681


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PostPosted: Fri 01 Apr 2016 10:45 am 
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Mine. If any errors, please tell me. I find self consciousness creeps in when recording and I can't see the text at times!

[I'll do it again and post later]

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Apr 2016 10:51 am 
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From: http://www.joeheaney.org/default.asp?contentID=681

On Thursday 4 September 1828, the Connaught Journal carried following notice:

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It is with unaffected sorrow we have to record a most distressing circumstance which took place this day, by which it is supposed that at least 19 unhappy fellow creatures perished. An old row boat in a rotten and leaky condition, started from Annaghdown, early in the morning, a distance from Galway, up Lough Corrib, of about eight miles, having it is calculated, about 31 persons on board, who were coming to the fair in Galway; the boat and passengers proceeded without obstruction, until they arrived opposite Bushypark, within two miles of Galway, when she suddenly went down, and all on board perished, except twelve persons, who were fortunately rescued from their perilous situation by another boat.


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she suddenly went down, and all on board perished, except twelve persons


Reminds me of the time that plane crashed where everyone was found alive, except for the same planeload where everyone perished

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Apr 2016 10:59 am 
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This is a better version to read and rhymes nicer:

Má fháighimse sláinte is fada a bheas tráchtadh
ar an méid a báthadh ó Anach Cuain.
Mo thrua amáireach gach athair a’s máthair,
ó, bean a’s páiste atá ag sileadh súl.
A Rí na nGrásta a cheap neamh a’s párthas,
a Dhia, cér chás dúinn beirt nó triúr,
Ach lá chomh breá leis, gan gaoth ná báisteach,
ó, lán an bháid a scuabadh ar siúl.

Nár mhór an t-ionach os comhair na ndaoine
iad a fheiceáil sínte ar chúl a gcinn
Screadach is caoineadh a scanródh daoine,
bhí gruaig dá cíoradh is an chreach dá roinnt.
Bhí buachaillí óga ann, ag tigheacht don fhómhar,
dhá síneadh ar chróchair ‘s dhá dtabhairt go cill;
Ba é gléas a bpósta a bhí dhá dtórramh,
ach a Rí na Glóire, nár mhór an feall.

Baile Cláir a bhí in aice láimhe
Níor lig an t-ádh dhóibh a dhul aníos;
Bhí an bás chomh láidir, níor thug sé cairde
d’aon mhac máthar dár rugadh riamh;
Bhris an bád a’s báthadh na daoine,
scaip na caoirigh anonn sa snámh,
A Dhia, nach ansin a bhí an feall mór déanta
ar aon fhear déag a’s ochtar mná.

Ansiúd Dé hAoine ‘sea chluinfeá an caoineadh
ag teacht gach taobh dhíot a’s ag greadadh bos
A’s an lá thar oíche trom tuirseadh claoíte
gan ceo le déanamh ach ag síneadh corp.
A Dhia ’s a Chríost a d’fhulaing íobairt
a cheannaigh go fírinneach an bocht ‘s an nocht
Go párrthas naofa go dtugair saor leat
gach créatúr díobh dhár thit faoin lot.

Loscadh sléibhe agus scalladh cléibhe
ar an áit ar éagadar is milleán crua;
Is iomaí créatúr a d’fhág sé ag géarghol,
ag gol ‘s ag éagaoin gach maidin Luain;
Ní díobháil eolais a chuir dá dtreo iad
ach mí-ádh mór a bhí sa gCaisleán Nua.
Is é críochnú m’amhráin gur báthadh mórán
a d’fhág ábhar dóláis in Anach Cuain.

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Apr 2016 12:28 pm 
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Thanks, thanks a lot to you all!!!!

My interest for Irish music started during my first trip in Ireland when I was 14 years old.
Last year I was in Ireland with my boyfrind and I was searching for some Irish music for voice and harp,
as we have an harp teacher at the school.
I found some interesting books and, with my teacher, we decided to study something.
Now I have a lot to study!

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