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 Post subject: Virtue
PostPosted: Fri 18 Apr 2014 12:44 am 
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One of the essays I get to write up is about 9 virtues. Now I understand I may get a bunch of different opinions on what these virtues are supposed to be, but the nine that was chosen for me to write about are below. I request to know what they are in Common Irish Gaelic.

Wisdom, Piety, Vision, Courage, Integrity, Perseverance, Hospitality, Moderation, and Fertility.

also I have heard "Slainte'" pronounced slawn AND slawncha, which is correct?


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 Post subject: Re: Virtue
PostPosted: Fri 18 Apr 2014 1:05 am 
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Zekra wrote:
also I have heard "Slainte'" pronounced slawn AND slawncha, which is correct?

I'll answer this bit. Someone else will hopefullly attempt the main translation in due course.

Sláinte SLAWN-cha /sLɑ:Nt´ə/ is a toast "cheers" from sláinte mhaith "good health".

Slán SLAWN /sLɑ:N/ means "safe, sound, well" is a form of farewell like "take care".

Fuller forms include:

slán leat "(go) safely" literally "safe with you"
slán agat "(be) safe" literally "safe at you" or "have safety"
slán go fóill "take care for now"
slán abhaile "safe home"

Slán and sláinte are often confused by beginners because they are somewhat similar. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Virtue
PostPosted: Fri 18 Apr 2014 2:10 am 
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my goodness! thank you for the swift response. I am glad to clear that up.


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 Post subject: Re: Virtue
PostPosted: Fri 18 Apr 2014 8:35 am 
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I have learned that because they are a single word in English the Irish version will need to have more description. So one word becomes one line.

I would prefer if anyone translating this do so one at a time. it is my belief that the sheer amount of words may cause many to turn away. Thank you for your time.


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 Post subject: Re: Virtue
PostPosted: Fri 18 Apr 2014 8:55 am 
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ok history Lesson also. :facepalm: I understand I probably want a translation in (CL). Though My first instinct was to go to the westernmost territory of Ireland through the language of Connacht. In history Connacht was one of four territories. After reading about the "Tain" And the hero Cuchulain, I saw these counties were split up 4 ways even during the time that story was told. Of course I do not claim to know of the translating authors' time period.

Am I to understand that this area is where most of the bogs are located in Ireland? please excuse my ignorance.


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 Post subject: Re: Virtue
PostPosted: Fri 18 Apr 2014 10:22 am 
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I just wanted to add that (as explained in the Buntús Cainte coursebook) when saying goodbye, the person who is staying says Slán agat and the person who is leaving says Slán leat. But I don't know whether this is still usual, as the book dates back the 1960's.


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 Post subject: Re: Virtue
PostPosted: Fri 18 Apr 2014 11:14 am 
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franc 91 wrote:
I just wanted to add that (as explained in the Buntús Cainte coursebook) when saying goodbye, the person who is staying says Slán agat and the person who is leaving says Slán leat. But I don't know whether this is still usual, as the book dates back the 1960's.
Shouldn't that be the other way around? :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Virtue
PostPosted: Fri 18 Apr 2014 11:29 am 
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Tá an ceart agat


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 Post subject: Re: Virtue
PostPosted: Fri 18 Apr 2014 12:35 pm 
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Here's one set of options:

Críonnacht "Wisdom"
Cráifeacht "Piety"
Fadbhreathnaitheacht "Vision"
Misneach "Courage"
Ionracas "Integrity"
Buanseasmhacht "Perseverance"
Aíocht "Hospitality"
Measarthacht "Moderation"
Torthúlacht "Fertility"

There are several possible translations for many of these, e.g., misneach could also be calmacht, etc.

Await further input ...

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Is fearr Gaeilge ḃriste ná Béarla cliste, cinnte, aċ i ḃfad níos fearr aríst í Gaeilge ḃinn ḃeo na nGaeltaċtaí.
Gaeilge Chonnacht (GC), go háraid Gaeilge Chois Fhairrge (GCF), Gaeilic Uladh (GU), Gaelainn na Mumhan (GM), agus Gaeilge an Chaighdeáin Oifigiúil (CO).


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 Post subject: Re: Virtue
PostPosted: Fri 18 Apr 2014 8:39 pm 
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Which words can have multiple meanings, only some or all of them?


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