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 Post subject: An Seanduine Dóite
PostPosted: Tue 28 Jan 2014 4:06 pm 
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Moya Brennan sings this version of An Seanduine Dóite on her latest CD. I'm trying to work out the verses, but they don't seem to match up with lyrics I've found on-line, and the song's "rapid fire" enough that I can't quite catch what she's singing in a lot of places. Can someone out there help me work out a transcription of this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7TCZhCIDUw

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 Post subject: Re: An Seanduine Dóite
PostPosted: Wed 29 Jan 2014 1:56 am 
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Good luck with that. Trying to decoding that sort of singing is a job in itself

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 Post subject: Re: An Seanduine Dóite
PostPosted: Wed 29 Jan 2014 10:30 am 
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There seem to be elements from some of these versions:

http://www.celticlyricscorner.net/relat ... nduine.htm
http://www.celticlyricscorner.net/ryan/anseanduine.htm

And perhaps some from this one as well:

http://www.celticlyricscorner.net/danu/odheara.htm

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 Post subject: Re: An Seanduine Dóite
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I made a slowed down version of the song.
It might help people figure out the lyrics.

. :>: .

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 Post subject: Re: An Seanduine Dóite
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
I made a slowed down version of the song.
It might help people figure out the lyrics.

. :>: .
Very clever idea! 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: An Seanduine Dóite
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Saoirse wrote:
Bríd Mhór wrote:
I made a slowed down version of the song.
It might help people figure out the lyrics.

. :>: .
Very clever idea! 8-)


Thanks Saoirse.

Does anybody know it? Lughaidh?

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 Post subject: Re: An Seanduine Dóite
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This is probably the same version as Moya's, or close to it (the man, Éamonn Mac Ruairí, appears to be from the North):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OolHuE_2P9c

It might be possible to pick out bits from this recording where Moya's voice clashes with the backing music in her live performance.

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 Post subject: Re: An Seanduine Dóite
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I'm pretty poor at deciphering song lyrics in any bloody language but this is what I'm hearing in the chorus and first verse:

Óró, 'sheanduine, 'sheanduine dhóite
Is óró, 'sheanduine, 'sheanduine dhóite
Is óró, 'sheanduine, 'sheanduine dhóite
Brón ar an tseanduine is mairg a phós sé*
 
Chuir mise mo sheanduine
Isteach ins an choirnéal (choradh? or chónair?)
Ag ól bainne ramhair
Is ag ithe aráin eornan
Dá gcuirfeadh sé a cheann amach
Sciobfainn an tsrón de
Agus bhéarfainn** an chuid (eile)
do na buachaillí óga


* I know it seems strange to speak of him in the third person after addressing him directly with the vocative before that, but that's what I hear, I think.
** Ulster form of thabharfainn

Will have a listen to the rest later.

Slán,

Domhnall

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 Post subject: Re: An Seanduine Dóite
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AnBraonach wrote:
I'm pretty poor at deciphering song lyrics in any bloody language but this is what I'm hearing in the chorus and first verse:

Óró, 'sheanduine, 'sheanduine dhóite
Is óró, 'sheanduine, 'sheanduine dhóite
Is óró, 'sheanduine, 'sheanduine dhóite
Brón ar an tseanduine is mairg a phós sé*
 
Chuir mise mo sheanduine
Isteach ins an choirnéal (choradh? or chónair?)
Ag ól bainne ramhair
Is ag ithe aráin eornan
Dá gcuirfeadh sé a cheann amach
Sciobfainn an tsrón de
Agus bhéarfainn** an chuid (eile)
do na buachaillí óga


* I know it seems strange to speak of him in the third person after addressing him directly with the vocative before that, but that's what I hear, I think.
** Ulster form of thabharfainn

Will have a listen to the rest later.

Slán,

Domhnall


Any idea of the rest of it a Dhomhnaill?

We found so many different verses online. But it seems that most of what Máire says is unique to her version of the song.

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 Post subject: Re: An Seanduine Dóite
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Bríd Mhór wrote:
AnBraonach wrote:
I'm pretty poor at deciphering song lyrics in any bloody language but this is what I'm hearing in the chorus and first verse:

Óró, 'sheanduine, 'sheanduine dhóite
Is óró, 'sheanduine, 'sheanduine dhóite
Is óró, 'sheanduine, 'sheanduine dhóite
Brón ar an tseanduine is mairg a phós sé*
 
Chuir mise mo sheanduine
Isteach ins an choirnéal (choradh? or chónair?)
Ag ól bainne ramhair
Is ag ithe aráin eornan
Dá gcuirfeadh sé a cheann amach
Sciobfainn an tsrón de
Agus bhéarfainn** an chuid (eile)
do na buachaillí óga


* I know it seems strange to speak of him in the third person after addressing him directly with the vocative before that, but that's what I hear, I think.
** Ulster form of thabharfainn

Will have a listen to the rest later.

Slán,

Domhnall


Any idea of the rest of it a Dhomhnaill?

We found so many different verses online. But it seems that most of what Máire says is unique to her version of the song.


That's what I'm finding too. I'm tempted to find out if I can email her through her agent or something and just ask her.

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