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 Post subject: "Is from" question
PostPosted: Sun 20 Jan 2013 3:26 pm 
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I'm subscribed to Talk Irish's Irish Word a Day, which is going through the relationship words at the moment.

http://talkirish.com/blogs/wordaday/arc ... r-old.aspx

Yesterday and today I've seen a construction that I don't recall seeing before.

Is as Ceanada do mo chol ceathrair.
Is as Corcaigh do mo sheanathair.


So I start looking through various language learning books and come across Is as Bostom dom and Cad as d'Aine?.

I'm not accustomed to seeing the "do" in there. How did I miss this basic info? I'm truly shocked. :oops: Is it because of the copula, as in Mark is aimn dom?

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 Post subject: Re: "Is from" question
PostPosted: Sun 20 Jan 2013 3:50 pm 
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yobar wrote:
I'm subscribed to Talk Irish's Irish Word a Day, which is going through the relationship words at the moment.

http://talkirish.com/blogs/wordaday/arc ... r-old.aspx

Yesterday and today I've seen a construction that I don't recall seeing before.

Is as Ceanada do mo chol ceathrair.
Is as Corcaigh do mo sheanathair.


So I start looking through various language learning books and come across Is as Bostom dom and Cad as d'Aine?.

I'm not accustomed to seeing the "do" in there. How did I miss this basic info? I'm truly shocked. :oops: Is it because of the copula, as in Mark is aimn dom?


I think it may be a regional thing, Yobar. I learned "is as" (without the "dom") myself, but I've heard both. Probably Breandán or Lughaigh could explain it.

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 Post subject: Re: "Is from" question
PostPosted: Sun 20 Jan 2013 4:03 pm 
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You can say:

Is as Tír Chonaill é
or
Is as Tír Chonaill dó

Both are correct.
The latter is a bit strange for non-native speakers because it means "it is from Tir Chonaill for me"... but in Irish it makes sense :mrgreen:


The question can be: Cad as duit? Cad as tú? Cérb as duit? Cérb as tú? Cé as duit? Cé as tú? Cárb as tú? Cárb as duit? Cá as tú? Cá as duit?... all these are variants to say the same thing (Munster uses cad, Connachta cérb and cé as far as I now, and Ulster uses cárb or cá).

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 Post subject: Re: "Is from" question
PostPosted: Sun 20 Jan 2013 6:21 pm 
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Lughaidh wrote:
You can say:

Is as Tír Chonaill é
or
Is as Tír Chonaill dó

Both are correct.
The latter is a bit strange for non-native speakers because it means "it is from Tir Chonaill for me"... but in Irish it makes sense :mrgreen:


The question can be: Cad as duit? Cad as tú? Cérb as duit? Cérb as tú? Cé as duit? Cé as tú? Cárb as tú? Cárb as duit? Cá as tú? Cá as duit?... all these are variants to say the same thing (Munster uses cad, Connachta cérb and cé as far as I now, and Ulster uses cárb or cá).

:yes: Cé as thú ? and Cerb as thú ? (with the object/disjunctive pronoun) in Connacht.

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