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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2012 12:45 am 
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Scooby wrote:
There's a real mixed bag here. Some may seem obscure and others really need to be learned, (like the prepositions 'misneach' or 'fiafraigh' go with...). It's easy when you know the answers!

Well, no doubt I'll learn from it, even if I don't participate. Cúpla ceist, le do thoil. Could the correct preposition to use with a particular word change, based on context? And are there dialectal differences as to which is the correct preposition to use?

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2012 1:54 am 
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Aislingeach wrote:
Could the correct preposition to use with a particular word change, based on context?
As a general answer, yes. Often there is more than one idiom associated with a word, each using a different preposition, and more than one might fit the context, though I haven't checked Scooby's questions in detail to see if there are any in this case.

Aislingeach wrote:
And are there dialectal differences as to which is the correct preposition to use?

Again, yes. For example, some dialects say Tá grá agam duit and some say tá grá agam ort. (But again, I don't know if there are any examples of this kind in Scooby's quiz questions.)

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2012 11:12 am 
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Certainly some of the examples can have more than one answer depending on interpretation. I tried this with a Leaving Cert Higher Level class this year (with mixed results!) and I got some surprising, although perfectly valid interpretations. Regarding dialects, cas ar dheis / cas faoi dheis is another example - probably included in my questions but I haven't tim e to go back over them.

Here's another difficult one (which I hope I have right!) - definitely not for beginners.
Is mór an fear spóirt é _____________ a athar.


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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2012 11:43 am 
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Aislingeach wrote:
Well, no doubt I'll learn from it, even if I don't participate.
Feel free to contribute. Otherwise, it'll get lonely! :mrgreen:

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3. Bhí muinín ______ Máire ______ Áine.
I am feeling confident about this one......
Bhí muinín ag Máire as Áine.

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2012 4:16 pm 
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Saoirse wrote:
Aislingeach wrote:
Well, no doubt I'll learn from it, even if I don't participate.
Feel free to contribute. Otherwise, it'll get lonely! :mrgreen:

Scooby wrote:
3. Bhí muinín ______ Máire ______ Áine.
I am feeling confident about this one......
Bhí muinín ag Máire as Áine.


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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2012 5:56 pm 
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Here's another difficult one (which I hope I have right!) - definitely not for beginners.
Is mór an fear spóirt é _____________ a athar.

Is mór an fear spóirt é fearacht a athar. ???

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Aug 2012 8:06 pm 
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Aislingeach wrote:
Scooby wrote:
Here's another difficult one (which I hope I have right!) - definitely not for beginners.
Is mór an fear spóirt é _____________ a athar.

Is mór an fear spóirt é fearacht a athar. ???


Aye indeed, that's what I had in mind.


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4. Bí cinnte ______ go bhfuil ______ Sheán carr nua a cheannach.
Bí cinnte de go bhfuil ar Sheán carr nua a cheannach. ???

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Táim ag éirí níos cróga; dhá cheann le chéile! :mrgreen:

Scooby wrote:
5. “Tá obair dhian ______ déanamh ______ fós, a dhaltaí.”
6. “Tá fáilte is fiche ______ a bhuachaillí”, arsa bean an tí ______ na daltaí.
5. “Tá obair dhian le déanamh agaibh fós, a dhaltaí.”
6. “Tá fáilte is fiche romhaibh a bhuachaillí”, arsa bean an tí do na daltaí.

Grma, a Scooby. Tá siad seo iontach! 8-)

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